The confidence on both sides is wild

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K2-HMFIC said:

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Sq 17 said:

I would not solely blame Mitt for the 2016 loss, Obama was going to be tough to beat he was the incumbent who won convincingly in 2012.

Romney was selected as the candidate to not put up any real fight. Romney allowed Obama to steamroll in the debates on purpose.


Wtf.

Romney trashed Obama in the first debate. And two years later we got to hear clips of Obama saying "The 1980's wants their Foreign Policy back" after he poopooed the 'Russia is our biggest geopolitical competitor'
The Romney/Ryan ticket was such a disappointment.

I sill remember watching Paul Ryan sit there and get embarrassed by Biden. Contrast that debate with the one last Thursday....and you can see why Trump was elected.
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DirtyMikesBoys said:

Pretty wild to think back not long ago at all to the night of the SOTU address. To that point Trump, despite the weight of the world on his shoulders and what seemed like anyone who could doing everything in their power to see him fall, from 90 some odd percent negative media coverage, to unprecedented illegal spying by an outgoing administration, on and on it went.. he had the US in the strongest position it's potentially ever been in. Across the board regardless of color or creed the US was soaring. Economy, crushed ISIS, USMCA, two successful Supreme Court nominations, energy independence in conjunction with environmental cleanup that led the world. Tax cuts that benefited all. Historic support for AA causes HBC/opportunity Zones, etc. He stood up for us. He kept winning.

The prideful Democrats on the hill and in bureaucracy inside the beltway couldn't handle the unapologetic American exceptionalism. They couldn't handle their team not being responsible for all the W's he racked up. He embarrassed them.

So they double down. Throw a childlike tantrum and pass a partisan impeachment. "Because we'll show him!"

"He'll always be impeached," she said.

They've resorted to character assassination of decorated generals, respected judges, whatever it takes to "get him," they've tried.

And despite everything. It all failed.

What's left but to flick the off switch on America for nearly a calendar year. All the pain, divorce, suicide rates, businesses failing be damned. They were still dead set on "getting him."

I hope to my core that America rejects the vile vindictive behavior we've experienced throughout this first term, but if it all finally proves to be too much for one man to conquer, DJT is a lion. A patriot. A warrior. He's been through hell and fought every step of the way. I am beyond thankful for the man. It takes someone special to endure the scrutiny he has and not only function on a day to day basis, but keep his promises and dunk on Democrats heads over and over and over again.

God bless DJT. God Bless America.

Fantastic post.

I can't speak for others, but President Donald J. Trump gave me hope for our Republic for the first time in my life of 33 years. I USED to suffer from the same pessimism I see from so many conservatives that our country is too far gone and can't be redeemed. That went out the window on November 8, 2016.

He's the first president since Reagan that can point to his record and convince me, overwhelmingly, he has my best interest as an American as his top priority. All the while, the unfathomable opposition to him at every turn is more than any other man could withstand and I have no doubt God is with him.

Even though I think registered R's will ultimately surge well past D's, I think there are going to be a shocking number of D's that vote for DJT. It's incredibly hard for me to see how someone that voted for him in 2016 would not come back with vigor after he did EVERYTHING he promised he'd do in his first term.

I don't look at polls (fool me once) but all other metrics I give credence to tell me DJT will win an a huge landslide to the point we even take back control of the House. Book it.
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The left wing media is engaging in voter suppression tactics against the conservative candidates as they always do...becaue they always get away with it.

Their is no way in hell that sleep creepy hiding in the basement Senile Joe Biden will become the 46th President of the United States!!! Take it to the bank!!!
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eric76 said:

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Do they think we are going to fall for this BS?







Ahh yes. The Economist.

Well known Socialist Libtard Rag.
Have you ever even tried to read it?


It changed several years ago with their current editor. Big difference. Used to be my go to flight read. There's an article out there from a few years ago talking about the change in direction and editor's past.
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I'm in the camp that thinks Biden wins the election. I think way to many people hate the constant trolling by Trump. As Shapiro said, its really hard for a troll to win the presidency. However, I have a non-political friend that voted Biden already and he firmly believes that Trump will win easily... so idk. He is a minority and his main reason cited for voting Biden was the protection Trump gives white supremacists. So... that false narrative is working pretty well I think, supporting my belief that Biden wins. However, I just can't see how everyone feels so confident. We truly live in the disinformation age.
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AggieTarheel said:

I'm in the camp that thinks Biden wins the election. I think way to many people hate the constant trolling by Trump. As Shapiro said, its really hard for a troll to win the presidency. However, I have a non-political friend that voted Biden already and he firmly believes that Trump will win easily... so idk. He is a minority and his main reason cited for voting Biden was the protection Trump gives white supremacists. So... that false narrative is working pretty well I think, supporting my belief that Biden wins. However, I just can't see how everyone feels so confident. We truly live in the disinformation age.


That's a bald-faced lie!
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One side has been lied to for the last four about numerous things, like Russia collusion. They believe anything the spook talking heads on TV tell them. So of course they are confident, Anderson pooper is saying trump is finished for the millionth time and they eat it up.
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So the OP listed a tweet from Dave Wasserman.

Here is a tweet of Dave's from around the same time in 2016:

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And then this guy nailing it:

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And with the polarization of America thanks to social media, it shouldn't be surprising at all that there are two sides who believe two very different 'truths' with all of their heart. Neither side is getting their information from the same place so they just write off the other view point as crazy and out of touch with reality.

We are truly in the post-truth era where everybody has their own beliefs confirmed daily by their smart phones.
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PJYoung said:

So the OP listed a tweet from Dave Wasserman.

Here is a tweet of Dave's from around the same time in 2016:


Very interesting. And not in a good way.
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AGC said:

eric76 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiedata said:

Do they think we are going to fall for this BS?







Ahh yes. The Economist.

Well known Socialist Libtard Rag.
Have you ever even tried to read it?


It changed several years ago with their current editor. Big difference. Used to be my go to flight read. There's an article out there from a few years ago talking about the change in direction and editor's past.
Aaaannnd it's China's fault.

Quote:

The Economist provided sympathetic coverage of a Chinese tech giant widely considered a national security risk without disclosing the publication's lucrative business relationship with the firm that spanned nearly a decade.

Huawei Technologies commissioned the Economist's business consulting division to advance its policy agendas and deflect cybersecurity concerns raised by Western governments. The influential British magazine produced reports on a wide range of subjectsincluding a report on broadband access in the United Kingdom that Huawei credits to have influenced British policy. The publication has also run numerous Huawei advertisements, and its editors have cohosted several global forums with the company, helping the tech firm boost its public image as it faced growing scrutiny from the developed world for its close ties with the Chinese government.

The Economist defended Huawei in a front-page cover story in 2012the year the publication's consulting division started working with the companythat accused Western countries of using cybersecurity concerns as a pretense to oppose legitimate competition from Huawei. The publication's coverage of the tech company has become less overtly pro-Huawei in recent years, but the Economist's coverage of the company is seen as friendly enough that Huawei's PR division has cited several of the magazine's articles to deflect criticism.

"The rise of a Chinese world-beater is stoking fears of cyber-espionage. Techno-nationalism is not the answer," reads the 2012 piece's headline.

Huawei nurtured a lucrative relationship with the Economist just as it faced growing concerns from Western countries that broadband networks built by the tech firm serve as a conduit for Chinese espionage. Such cybersecurity concerns have pushed the United States, Japan, Australia, the United Kingdom, and other U.S. allies to severely curtail or outright ban the company's operations in their countries.
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Well, in my West Houston neighborhood its at least 4 to 1 Trump signs...


Some of you are pathetic
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same. the white collar suburbs comment is BS.
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PJYoung said:

So the OP listed a tweet from Dave Wasserman.

Here is a tweet of Dave's from around the same time in 2016:


terrifying.
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C@LAg said:

Prosperdick said:

Two things that hurt the Dems big time are campuses all over the country shut down and Dems need the college age vote and it's being reduced.
except they will just vote where they are?
but will they be as brain-washed. tougher to be fooled in following the crowd for Biden when there isn't a crowd
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Do not scroll that Wasserman twitter page unless you want a gut punch. His district level data that gave* him some receipts for 2016 are extremely not good for 2020.
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dBoy99 said:



Well, in my West Houston neighborhood its at least 4 to 1 Trump signs...
In the Heights and we might be outnumbered 50/1 Biden to Trump
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In the heights too, and I've seen 2 Trump signs total.
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digital_ag said:

Do not scroll that Wasserman twitter page unless you want a gut punch. His district level data that give him some receipts for 2016 are extremely not good for 2020.
yeah....its over
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gigemJTH12 said:

digital_ag said:

Do not scroll that Wasserman twitter page unless you want a gut punch. His district level data that give him some receipts for 2016 are extremely not good for 2020.
yeah....its over


What's over?
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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I am being dramatic but I just feel terrible about Trump's chances.
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gigemJTH12 said:

I am being dramatic but I just feel terrible about Trump's chances.


Ok. Sorry.

I feel good. No need to be negative about something that I have no control over.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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would love more than anything to be wrong!
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BoerneAg11 said:

dBoy99 said:



Well, in my West Houston neighborhood its at least 4 to 1 Trump signs...
In the Heights and we might be outnumbered 50/1 Biden to Trump
That doesn't surprise me. It's the "Austin" of Houston. I doubt many of them voted Trump in 2016 either.

Not exactly a "suburb" though.
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gigemJTH12 said:

would love more than anything to be wrong!

Funny how we get different perspectives on all of this. I'm actually probably more confident today than I have been at any point. My confidence has slowly been ticking up for the past few weeks. There was a point I didn't expect Trump to win, but getting more and more confident every day.
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txaggie_08 said:

gigemJTH12 said:

would love more than anything to be wrong!

Funny how we get different perspectives on all of this. I'm actually probably more confident today than I have been at any point. My confidence has slowly been ticking up for the past few weeks. There was a point I didn't expect Trump to win, but getting more and more confident every day.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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agsquirrel97 said:

Good, good

I want a meltdown
It might not be the meltdown we're looking for.

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gigemJTH12 said:

same. the white collar suburbs comment is BS.
Many of those "white collar suburbs" have people in the O&G industry and I have a hard time believing they are going to swing toward Biden.

I'm sure there are more dem voters in the suburbs given the way Houston has expanded.

But I don't think there's going to be a Biden revolution in Texas.
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txaggie_08 said:

gigemJTH12 said:

would love more than anything to be wrong!

Funny how we get different perspectives on all of this. I'm actually probably more confident today than I have been at any point. My confidence has slowly been ticking up for the past few weeks. There was a point I didn't expect Trump to win, but getting more and more confident every day.
love seeing some hope from yall. gives me a little hope to hang onto.
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gigemJTH12 said:

would love more than anything to be wrong!
We can tell by all your doom and gloom posts.
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https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_oct26

Not sure this means much. Didn't they call it in 2016 as well?
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txaggie_08 said:

gigemJTH12 said:

would love more than anything to be wrong!

Funny how we get different perspectives on all of this. I'm actually probably more confident today than I have been at any point. My confidence has slowly been ticking up for the past few weeks. There was a point I didn't expect Trump to win, but getting more and more confident every day.
If I was going based off what I would consider "tangible", eg enthusiasm, stark contrast between a Biden event and a Trump event, Biden's catastrophic economic policies and how the gen pop sees Trump as better on the economy I would be feeling just fine.

But the data that was starting to waver on HC is holding strong for Biden. That gives me great pause.

I admire your optimism.
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BoerneAg11 said:

dBoy99 said:



Well, in my West Houston neighborhood its at least 4 to 1 Trump signs...
In the Heights and we might be outnumbered 50/1 Biden to Trump


In Katy and Fulshear, I honestly can't think of any Biden signs that I have seen. I see Trump signs everywhere though. Many houses also have blue lights up but no political signs, which means they support Trump almost guaranteed since those are blue lives matter supporters.
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beerad12man said:

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_oct26

Not sure this means much. Didn't they call it in 2016 as well?


I just can't trust a poll that has Biden only with 77% of Democrat support among likely voters but only down 1% overall. It makes no sense.
 
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