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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

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So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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Well this is infiltration, not an invasion. So by the time people wake up and realize they're living in a socialist country it will be too late.

TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

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So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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Well this is infiltration, not an invasion. So by the time people wake up and realize they're living in a socialist country it will be too late.

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Are we talking about civil war or just conspiracy at this point?

Americams are already too well armed for any confiscation of guns or property.

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Americams are already too well armed for any confiscation of guns or property.

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That talk is just paranoia, will never actually happen

HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

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So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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To me, it sounds more like Charlie Brown's teacher.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

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So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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Well this is infiltration, not an invasion. So by the time people wake up and realize they're living in a socialist country it will be too late.

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Are we talking about civil war or just conspiracy at this point?

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Did you not hear when Obama said he was going to change this country?

There's these two


And I could go on with all the AGs like Keith Ellison, DAs like Chesa Boudin who's parents were locked up weather underground members and was a translator for hugo Chavez, see this:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/da-soros-justice

John Brennan and many others but I suspect I'd be wasting my time.

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Frankly, I think it could be argued that we are already in a sort of "civil war" with the rioters in several cities attacking government buildings and different government organizations either fighting, ignoring, or tacitly supporting these attacks.

We've had groups of citizens already deem some area they have taken over as some level of "sovereign".

I'm afraid it wouldn't take much more to tip the scales.

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Everything you've written has been taking place for years and years before the black people started doing this. Didn't seem to bother anyone all that much on here.

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I must have missed it.

Can you point to the articles that are at the level of what has been happening in Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis; including the elected government officials who have supported them?

This isn't just run of the mill protesting, or passing one or two day riots; this is over 40 days of continued assault.

This is no longer just a "Black Lives Matter" issue, but a full-blown attack on our federal and local governments by marxists.

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Well, we've seen riots in this country take place since before it was founded. Most were led by white people that targeted blacks and destroyed whole communities and killed hundreds.

We saw one area of the country declare themselves sovereign from the other because they wanted to keep their slaves. We've seen right wing militias and extremist declare themselves sovereign from the laws of the US for quite some time now. We've seen left wing extremists do this as well.

Cliven Bundy and his group of loons were able to do their thing and some even claimed they were heroes.

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C'mon man. You're better than that. All of those examples are radically different than what we are seeing today. And as this bird has repeated, most of the rioting is done by white people. Don't try to make it a race thing. It's not.

That being said, this was a terrible article. There is no impending civil war in the immediate future. The progressives are being completely successful in their long slow creep. I think they know it'll be back to more of the same once Trump is gone. They may be losing patience, but they aren't about to actually try for a civil war here.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

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So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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Well this is infiltration, not an invasion. So by the time people wake up and realize they're living in a socialist country it will be too late.

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Are we talking about civil war or just conspiracy at this point?

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If you open your eyes, you'll see it. It's really not hard and requires no "conspiracy theory". What you have is a slow, continuous skew away from logic and towards "gimme". Gimme's are now at 50% and climbing. The only thing holding people in the republican camp are the few who are holding on to the traditional social issues. Those will become fewer and fewer as time goes along and people adjust to the new social norm.

The leftward push does not ever end. It has one logical destination, which is communism. Add in the obvious infiltration in academia, and it's just 2+2 at that point. No conspiracy theory. Just paying attention to the logical conclusion of the current movement, provided there is no radical change agent to flip it back

TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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Which is how this country will go full on socialist. Just make sure people keep their jobs and we're all good right?

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So having a job makes you a socialist now?

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You have an ag tag, so I know you can read. Try again.

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You said people keeping their jobs will make this country socialist. What am I missing?

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I said "Which is how this country will go full on socialist.". What am I referring to?
a) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

b) Personally, like most Americans, I'm too busy going to work and providing for a family to get involved in something like that

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I don't see how that will make the country socialist, I just don't think a civil war is likely to happen because most people have other priorities in their life rather than getting involved in this silliness and going to war with each other

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A cold civil war has already started before this year. There was an ongoing coup attempt against the president, and left leaning companies stifling free speech. And then this year came and now they're burning cities and literally trying to seize land away from the US by force. So it's getting hotter. But a full on hot civil war probably won't be necessary.

I'll assume you mean a hot civil war. Do you think it won't happen because the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? Or do you think it won't happen because people are too busy to be bothered to save their country?

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Yes I mean a hot civil war where the country is literally at war, is that not what this thread is talking about? If it comes to that obviously every day people like myself won't be able to avoid it and life as we know it changes completely, you won't be able to do business between states, cities, or even counties at that point

You're so called "cold civil war" is just politics and riots that have obviously gotten out of hand and have been mishandled by certain local governments, but will go away eventually (just like they all have before)

---

So you think that the left will stop where they are and will not try to continue taking away free speech, our guns, trash law and order? That would be something all together new. The level of Marxism in this country has only gone up since the height of the Cold War. The only reason the left has given in on letting our kids go back to school is that they realize there's an election coming up and they need to get back to indoctrinating them and turn them in to good little Marxists.

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I don't know about all that, sounds like a mix of politics and paranoia to me. I'm just saying that I'm not expecting any of us to be forced to become "soldiers" in a civil war in my lifetime.

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Well this is infiltration, not an invasion. So by the time people wake up and realize they're living in a socialist country it will be too late.

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Are we talking about civil war or just conspiracy at this point?

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Did you not hear when Obama said he was going to change this country?

There's these two


And I could go on with all the AGs like Keith Ellison, DAs like Chesa Boudin who's parents were locked up weather underground members and was a translator for hugo Chavez, see this:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/da-soros-justice

John Brennan and many others but I suspect I'd be wasting my time.

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Sounds like you should run for office

Oh and find a new thread because you have completely changed the topic

Not sure I'd go so far as a "civil war", but widespread social unrest and violence is definitely a possibility in the not too distant future. Just wait until conservatives actually start feeling real economic pain or oppression. If we ever enter a hard recession or depression, all bets are off. There will start being occasional shots fired from frustrated people on the right with nothing left to lose and the anti-2A reaction from leftists in power, and even many wishy washy GOP'ers, will begin to wake up more and more people. I fear we're just inching closer and closer to a future where everyone is on edge....but for now, most are still living relatively comfortably...although many people are facing real fear and uncertainty for the future for the first time in a while.

Haven't read all the thread, but as this keeps coming up, want to mention three angles that seem to have gotten less play.

1) A far more interesting poll, post, thread would be one asking how many would like to not just have to deal with the other ideology running their lives. For example, instead of hot button ideas like `civil war' rebellion, how many, if they could just `have it' --- prefer the country being multiple regions like the 10th Amendment on steroids where once again, if you want to be a total Leftist, you can go to California or (now topping even them, Oregon/Washington) or if you want a spirit of `don't tread on me' a Texas, or some kind of commerce mecca (maybe New York after DeBlasio elements purged?)

In other words, how many think ideological segregation is the best path now? The same way opposing religions really can't have much to do with each other idea wise, but carry on commerce well enough.

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2) What about the kind of `civil war' that is simply hatred and attack on excessively powerful central authority, such as as micro-managing government and national media? Along perceived unreasonable taxes and weapons's confiscation (played a role in causing 1776) We now have a brand-new, fresh possible cause for just such a clash: arbitrary shut-downs imposed by the unaffected class on the whole way of living for what are perceived as over-stated dangers and even losses.

Never thought an uprising might be needed so people could just go to work. That's less common in history.

3) Neighborhood and domestic invasion and violence while the govt does little, or even excuses it. THIS DOES consistently result in a system being dismantled as people just have to start looking for out for themselves. Once places like Seattle figure out the govt and Media are worthless and entirely self-serving, they may start ignoring them.

Consider those kind of conflicts.