Loving the DACA hypocrites after Payroll Tax Cut EO

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Verne Lundquist
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Schadenfreude

"Only Congress" is currently the top trending topic

John Roberts made the rules...thems the breaks
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"Now I have a pen and a phone". - Donald Trump
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No no

As Concerned Moderate has explained to us: whatever branch of government Dems control should have limitless, unchecked power while any branch they don't control should be a powerless vestigial organ!

It just SOUNDS like hypocrisy but really it's patriotism!
txagbear
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I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders
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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


EOs still suck. And hopefully Trump makes this hurt the dems bad enough so that EO powers are curtailed in the future and at the very least can be undone.
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Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


You mean like how you were 100% fine with them when Obama did it
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Verne Lundquist
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BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this
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Oops
Im Gipper
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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped


Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?

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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


**** with the bull, you get the horns.
It is so easy to be wrong—and to persist in being wrong—when the costs of being wrong are paid by others.
Thomas Sowell
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Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?
BigRobSA
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Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?
it is what it is
Im Gipper
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Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?


Yes, he did. Putting aside that DACA wasn't an EO, at no point did Trump ever argue or claim that he wanted "EO powers to be stopped."
BigRobSA
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Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?
it is what it is
It is liberalism, plain and simple. But, he's a yuge lib, so it makes sense.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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Maroon Dawn said:

No no

As Concerned Moderate has explained to us: whatever branch of government Dems control should have limitless, unchecked power while any branch they don't control should be a powerless vestigial organ!

It just SOUNDS like hypocrisy but really it's patriotism!


As a concerned moderate why in the hell would I want democrats to have limitless power. The thing that concerns me about this is ot sets the stage for president AOC to ban all fossil fuels and outlaw capitalism in 2028.
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This executive order is bad Trump... but I'm enjoying the Obama cheerleaders who justified every one of his EOs suddenly learn why this is a bad thing.
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Im Gipper said:

Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?


Yes, he did. Putting aside that DACA wasn't an EO, at no point did Trump ever argue or claim that he wanted "EO powers to be stopped."

DACA wasn't an executive order?
BigRobSA
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Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?


Yes, he did. Putting aside that DACA wasn't an EO, at no point did Trump ever argue or claim that he wanted "EO powers to be stopped."

DACA wasn't an executive order?
Yes.

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The policy, an executive branch memorandum, was announced by President Barack Obama on June 15, 2012. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012.

"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


EOs suck if not to specify how laws will be interpreted, which this goes way beyond that, genius. This one sucks, as did all of Obama's EO bullsht.

I bet your leg tingled though when Obama told the IRS not to collect the HC tax from folks who didn't have HC insurance. He passsd a law and. EOed the fck out of it to ignore what he didn't like.

Liberals are pure scum.
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Obama used EOs like a line item veto and liberals like txagbear ate it the fck up.
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Cassius said:

txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


EOs suck if not to interpret how laws will be interpreted, which this goes way beyond that, genius. This one sucks, as did all of Obama's EO bullsht.

I bet your leg tingled though when Obama told the IRS not to collect the HC tax from folks who didn't have HC insurance. He passsd a law and. EOed the fck out of it to ignore what he didn't like.

Liberals are pure scum.
In both parties.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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Maroon Dawn said:

txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


You mean like how you were 100% fine with them when Obama did it
Hypocrisy only applies to anyone to the right of Bill Clinton on F16
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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders


Your boy taught us that elections have consequences. Sorry your girl lost after his presidency.
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BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?


At this point, it's Trump or Biden...take your pick...
"Thanks and Gig'em"
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BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?
it is what it is
It is liberalism, plain and simple. But, he's a yuge lib, so it makes sense.
you seem to think I'm philosophically ok with this for some reason.

This isn't happening in a vacuum anymore.

When even Mark Levin says POTUS doing this is correct you have to recognize this is a war...you take the bad with the good

Dad-O-Lot
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I may think that this EO is wrong and illegal, but still smile at how it ends up putting Democrats in the position of fighting to stop the help that Trump is trying to give.

It's a bad look for the Dems.

I think a lot of people will also remember Obama's "I've got a pen" statement and will see right through the Dems "He can't do that, that's Congress' job" wailing.

I also am certain that some anti-Trumper will post something about "whataboutism".

I'll just grin.
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txagbear said:

I also love hypocrites who used to complain about executive orders
Y'all made the rules. I never heard a single liberal complain about Obama reining like a dictator.
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Im Gipper said:

Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?

DACA wasn't an EO

You're lying.
BigRobSA
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MaroonStain said:

BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?


At this point, it's Trump or Biden...take your pick...
No, there are more than those two liberal morons, thankfully.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
BigRobSA
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Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Verne Lundquist said:

BigRobSA said:

Didn't his dumb, TARPy ass also provide $400/week for UE benefits?
Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped. John Roberts said no.

This is on Obama and John Roberts...they wanted this

What does that have to do with his liberal ass extending the idiotic UE benefits?
it is what it is
It is liberalism, plain and simple. But, he's a yuge lib, so it makes sense.
you seem to think I'm philosophically ok with this for some reason.

This isn't happening in a vacuum anymore.

When even Mark Levin says POTUS doing this is correct you have to recognize this is a war...you take the bad with the good


Liberalism is never the answer, especially when liberalism caused the problem.

Why does Levin saying anything mean a damn in the real world? I don't base my principles on talking heads' ideologies.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
Im Gipper
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Im Gipper said:

Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

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Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?

DACA wasn't an EO

You're lying.


DACA was a directive from Janet Napolitano.

https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

Can you give us a link to the DACA EO?

BigRobSA
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Im Gipper said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Im Gipper said:

Verne Lundquist said:

Im Gipper said:

Quote:

Trump wanted the EO powers to be stopped
Care to buy a bridge I have for sale?
Did he not argue against DACA?

DACA wasn't an EO

You're lying.


DACA was a directive from Janet Napolitano.

https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

Can you give us a link to the DACA EO?


Yes.

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The policy, an executive branch memorandum, was announced by President Barack Obama on June 15, 2012. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012.

What is an EBM?

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A presidential memorandum is a type of directive issued by the president of the United States to manage and govern the actions, practices, and policies of the various departments and agencies found under the executive branch of the United States government. It has the force of law and is usually used to delegate tasks, direct specific government agencies to do something, or to start a regulatory process.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-ABCvideo-1][1][/url] There are three types of presidential memoranda: presidential determination or presidential finding, memorandum of disapproval, and hortatory memorandum.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-sdsu-2][2][/url]

Sometimes used interchangeably, an executive order is a more prestigious form of executive action that must cite the specific constitutional or statutory authority the president has to use it.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-ABCvideo-1][1][/url] Unlike executive orders, memoranda are not required by law to be published in the Federal Register, but publication is necessary in order to have "general applicability and legal effect".[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-Korte17-3][3][/url] The Federal Register gives publication priority to executive orders and presidential proclamations over memoranda.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-Korte16-4][4][/url] Memoranda can be amended or rescinded by executive orders or another memorandum, but executive orders take legal precedence and cannot be changed by a memorandum.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum#cite_note-Korte17-3][3][/url]




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