The Dems are beginning to panic

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You would think that after asking for a special prosecutor for months, and finally getting one, that they would be happy. However, they are reacting a little differently. After exiting the meeting with the Deputy AG, they are beginning to panic. There were allegedly some not-so-hushed tones and questions from Democrats pressing the Deputy AG for answers. Meaning, the Dems in Congress haven't seen any evidence and believe that the Deputy AG found something to spur the appointment of Mueller.

Elijah Cummings is begging the Press to do their job and find the evidence of collusion. He is admitting that they have found nothing and begging on them to find it for them. The entity with subpoena power is asking the Press to do a deep dive into the bowels of their sources and find evidence.

Wolf Blitzer asked Diane Feinstein again, two weeks after asking her the same question, if she had found any evidence of collusion. Instead of just saying "No" like last time, Feinstein circumvented the question and said the only thing they have is media stories, but no evidence. Blitzer sighed in disbelief.

Panic is beginning to set in as an actual stopping point to this rhetoric is on the table with Mueller in place. Yes it is far, far down the line, but they have been able to manufacture rhetoric without opposition. But now, all that rhetoric has the chance to be adjudicated and answered. That isn't good for them in the social media world. Every single one of them that raced to a camera is now envisioning what their election primary and general election contest is going to be like.

The Dems are going to have to face a primary opponent that is mad at them for not impeaching Trump because of the Russian evidence they claimed existed. And then they are going to have to face a general election opponent who will hammer them for sabotaging an American Government based upon a made up story.

The Dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit and just got called.
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tl;dr?
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If you get Youtube clips, please post them. I'll watch out for them as well.
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ThatOneAg said:

tl;dr?


When the special counsel they've been demanding says there's nothing there but media hype, they will have no legal to stand on.
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Bonfire 1996 said:

You would think that after asking for a special prosecutor for months, and finally getting one, that they would be happy. However, they are reacting a little differently. After exiting the meeting with the Deputy AG, they are beginning to panic. There were allegedly some not-so-hushed tones and questions from Democrats pressing the Deputy AG for answers. Meaning, the Dems in Congress haven't seen any evidence and believe that the Deputy AG found something to spur the appointment of Mueller.

Elijah Cummings is begging the Press to do their job and find the evidence of collusion. He is admitting that they have found nothing and begging on them to find it for them. The entity with subpoena power is asking the Press to do a deep dive into the bowels of their sources and find evidence.

Wolf Blitzer asked Diane Feinstein again, two weeks after asking her the same question, if she had found any evidence of collusion. Instead of just saying "No" like last time, Feinstein circumvented the question and said the only thing they have is media stories, but no evidence. Blitzer sighed in disbelief.

Panic is beginning to set in as an actual stopping point to this rhetoric is on the table with Mueller in place. Yes it is far, far down the line, but they have been able to manufacture rhetoric without opposition. But now, all that rhetoric has the chance to be adjudicated and answered. That isn't good for them in the social media world. Every single one of them that raced to a camera is now envisioning what their election primary and general election contest is going to be like.

The Dems are going to have to face a primary opponent that is mad at them for not impeaching Trump because of the Russian evidence they claimed existed. And then they are going to have to face a general election opponent who will hammer them for sabotaging an American Government based upon a made up story.

The Dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit and just got called.
Now that is some spin for ya - mixed in with a tad of wishful thinking
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I read it. Took about 30 secs. They have overplayed their hand and set expectations that won't be met by reality. If you notice lately they have, along with their press allies, been desperately searching for a pivot that will stick to keep things going without having to put up or shut up a while longer.
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Not that Dice is balanced, but here's Maxine being stupid again.



If you want the important part, skip to 2:52.
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My question is what happens when Mueller finds out Seth Rich hacked the DNC and not the Russians. Will there be any repercussions for the lying Clinton campaign or the MSM?
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What exactly in the information that you quoted do you disagree with. Exactly
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Like I said, careful what you wish for Dems.
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What they should REALLY pucker up about is the Special Counsel can investigate based on where the evidence leads towards crimes and not just a Trump witch hunt. That means prosecuting leakers. That means the Clinton emails and involvement could come up. There is actual evidence in both those cases of laws being broken.

The odds of finding actual criminal evidence that would be worthy of impeachment seem very, very long because in all likelihood it would have come out by now with all the leaks and the press on overload for months on the story. They have been ignoring the actual criminal story that leads to the Dem side of the aisle though and a Special Counsel may not feel the same way.
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Here is the Feinstein interview: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/19/feinstein_no_evidence_of_russian_collusion_with_trump_campaign_but_there_are_rumors.html
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GCP12 said:

Here is the Feinstein interview: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/19/feinstein_no_evidence_of_russian_collusion_with_trump_campaign_but_there_are_rumors.html


Rumors rumors rumors rumors Exactly where is there 1 just 1 actual piece of evidence Trump colluded with the Russians.
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Actually, I don't think the dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit. More like Jack-Queen suited. It looked really good, very flashy, big cards. Trump is sitting on a boring old pair of pocket fives and will take the pot.
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ThatOneAg said:

tl;dr?
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The Dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit and just got called.
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Here is the Cummings interview:
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They're going all-in on impeachment. If it fails, this could cost them more than just a single election.
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The Dems are going to have to face a primary opponent that is mad at them for not impeaching Trump because of the Russian evidence they claimed existed. And then they are going to have to face a general election opponent who will hammer them for sabotaging an American Government based upon a made up story.
Or, the special prosecutor is actually pursuing Clinton/Obama's illegal activity and has preliminary laid out to these loser D's what info he has.

Remember all that top secret info that was reviewed at the White House a little while ago? I remember a quote to the effect of "what I saw was concerning".

LOLOLOLOLOL
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This is not remotely a defense of Trump because he's shown an uncanny ability to repeatedly trip himself up, but my gut instinct is that if there were any real evidence of collusion with the Russians it would have been found by now. I'm not talking about the ordinary contacts between representatives of government or those doing business abroad which are not remotely illegal or indicative of collusion, I'm talking real evidence which could result in an indictment and conviction.

And the Dems know there's nothing to find so when Mueller's investigation bears this out, just in time for the 2018 mid-terms the Republicans will have massive amounts of campaign fodder and bury the Dems in the Senate races and at the statehouse level too. It will also damage guys like McCain and Graham.

This will allow a much broader mandate for Trump to pursue his agenda.

I don't know if that's good or bad (Gorsuch good, tariffs bad) but the OP is right, the Dems have gone all-in with what appears to be a very weak hand and the appointment of Mueller has called their bluff.
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USMC0331 said:

My question is what happens when Mueller finds out Seth Rich hacked the DNC and not the Russians. Will there be any repercussions for the lying Clinton campaign or the MSM?
While you are pondering that...what if the Russians killed Seth Rich?
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Or somehow these "elites" in DC somehow manage to oust Trump. What do you think the people who voted for him or at least 30-40% of those people will think happened. Especially if it's basically non-sense. Trump will go nuclear. It will sever a lot of people's connection for the consent of the governed.

It is my firm belief that a large portion of DC doesn't give a damn what voters or the people think. And I think a large portion of this subset is basically throwing an extended tantrum for which they haven't war gamed or game theoried the results. I doubt it will be pleasant.
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USMC0331 said:

GCP12 said:

Here is the Feinstein interview: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/19/feinstein_no_evidence_of_russian_collusion_with_trump_campaign_but_there_are_rumors.html


Rumors rumors rumors rumors Exactly where is there 1 just 1 actual piece of evidence Trump colluded with the Russians.
This red herring again? Let's let the investigation play out and so we can find out if there is concrete evidence of collusion or not. Has this even occurred to you?

A look into it it is certainly justified given Trump's love of all things Russia, the numerous connections and communications between Trump's campaign and Russia and the suspicious cover-up behavior exhibited on a daily basis.
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With the fact that they will be able to search for ANYTHING, Trump may be out of office before anything comes forward..if anything is even there
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I think the dems on here are beginning to panic also. They know there's no evidence, and other than Flynn or a couple more, it's gonna come crashing down on them.

Where there's smoke there's fire? No, where there's smoke there's democrats making smoke.
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A look into it it is certainly justified given Trump's love of all things Russia, the numerous connections and communications between Trump's campaign and Russia and the suspicious cover-up behavior exhibited on a daily basis.
You couldn't help yourself could you? Did you feel this way when Team Obama actually visited Russia during his transition? Of course not.
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mesocosm said:

Bonfire 1996 said:

You would think that after asking for a special prosecutor for months, and finally getting one, that they would be happy. However, they are reacting a little differently. After exiting the meeting with the Deputy AG, they are beginning to panic. There were allegedly some not-so-hushed tones and questions from Democrats pressing the Deputy AG for answers. Meaning, the Dems in Congress haven't seen any evidence and believe that the Deputy AG found something to spur the appointment of Mueller.

Elijah Cummings is begging the Press to do their job and find the evidence of collusion. He is admitting that they have found nothing and begging on them to find it for them. The entity with subpoena power is asking the Press to do a deep dive into the bowels of their sources and find evidence.

Wolf Blitzer asked Diane Feinstein again, two weeks after asking her the same question, if she had found any evidence of collusion. Instead of just saying "No" like last time, Feinstein circumvented the question and said the only thing they have is media stories, but no evidence. Blitzer sighed in disbelief.

Panic is beginning to set in as an actual stopping point to this rhetoric is on the table with Mueller in place. Yes it is far, far down the line, but they have been able to manufacture rhetoric without opposition. But now, all that rhetoric has the chance to be adjudicated and answered. That isn't good for them in the social media world. Every single one of them that raced to a camera is now envisioning what their election primary and general election contest is going to be like.

The Dems are going to have to face a primary opponent that is mad at them for not impeaching Trump because of the Russian evidence they claimed existed. And then they are going to have to face a general election opponent who will hammer them for sabotaging an American Government based upon a made up story.

The Dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit and just got called.
Now that is some spin for ya - mixed in with a tad of wishful thinking
I have never seen you go point by point. Just cheap drive bys
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Busdriver99 said:

USMC0331 said:

My question is what happens when Mueller finds out Seth Rich hacked the DNC and not the Russians. Will there be any repercussions for the lying Clinton campaign or the MSM?
While you are pondering that...what if the Russians killed Seth Rich?

What if Seth Rich was really a Russian?
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What they're doing will work.

Trump will become less liked/more hated.

But wow, people are going to HATE the left more and more and more.
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What if everyone on this thread is Russian?
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mesocosm said:

USMC0331 said:

GCP12 said:

Here is the Feinstein interview: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/19/feinstein_no_evidence_of_russian_collusion_with_trump_campaign_but_there_are_rumors.html


Rumors rumors rumors rumors Exactly where is there 1 just 1 actual piece of evidence Trump colluded with the Russians.
This red herring again? Let's let the investigation play out and so we can find out if there is concrete evidence of collusion or not. Has this even occurred to you?

A look into it it is certainly justified given Trump's love of all things Russia, the numerous connections and communications between Trump's campaign and Russia and the suspicious cover-up behavior exhibited on a daily basis.
Thoughts on podesta being paid by russians? Should they be looking into that too? Surely, you believe that should be investigated fully as well. How about the russian reset? Hillary seemed pretty chummy with the russians. Lets look into all of it, and im good with it.
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Blue Star this post if you are Russian.
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Blue Star this post if you are not Russian.
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Charpie said:

With the fact that they will be able to search for ANYTHING, Trump may be out of office before anything comes forward..if anything is even there
An eight year investigation?!?!
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Bonfire 1996 said:

You would think that after asking for a special prosecutor for months, and finally getting one, that they would be happy. However, they are reacting a little differently. After exiting the meeting with the Deputy AG, they are beginning to panic. There were allegedly some not-so-hushed tones and questions from Democrats pressing the Deputy AG for answers. Meaning, the Dems in Congress haven't seen any evidence and believe that the Deputy AG found something to spur the appointment of Mueller.

Elijah Cummings is begging the Press to do their job and find the evidence of collusion. He is admitting that they have found nothing and begging on them to find it for them. The entity with subpoena power is asking the Press to do a deep dive into the bowels of their sources and find evidence.

Wolf Blitzer asked Diane Feinstein again, two weeks after asking her the same question, if she had found any evidence of collusion. Instead of just saying "No" like last time, Feinstein circumvented the question and said the only thing they have is media stories, but no evidence. Blitzer sighed in disbelief.

Panic is beginning to set in as an actual stopping point to this rhetoric is on the table with Mueller in place. Yes it is far, far down the line, but they have been able to manufacture rhetoric without opposition. But now, all that rhetoric has the chance to be adjudicated and answered. That isn't good for them in the social media world. Every single one of them that raced to a camera is now envisioning what their election primary and general election contest is going to be like.

The Dems are going to have to face a primary opponent that is mad at them for not impeaching Trump because of the Russian evidence they claimed existed. And then they are going to have to face a general election opponent who will hammer them for sabotaging an American Government based upon a made up story.

The Dems went all in with a 2-7 off suit and just got called.


I'm happy to see you wading from OR into our waters a bit more frequently lately. Good post.
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