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For those not in the know, it's carefully manipulated to push anti conservative/anti Trump propaganda. Below is one piece of evidence of this activity.

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You weren't wrong. Here.. Statistical proof of vote manipulation scripts. Sincerely, a non T_D poster (me) : The_Donald

Some arrogant scripter/botter decided to turn his script up to 300 upvotes/minute in the last hour, which made it extremely easy to track and prove (finally) that it is happening. Didn't everyone love that middle finger with "**** You" written under it? I sure didn't, when I was browsing with my 10 year old nephew and it was the #1 post! (WTF Reddit Admins?!)

The_Donald, I may be an outsider to you. I do not post here. However, I want my Reddit back, from when it used to be TWO sided every day and I'd see actual news. I didn't even know the President left the country today, until I was watching my local news channel! "They" downvote EVERYTHING I would like to see.

SO....

Here is your proof.

40 minutes of that #1 post from /r/MarchAgainstTrump, with no faltering upvote/downvote stream, at 300 upvotes/minute.

https://www.reddit.com/tb/6byo2a is the post I was monitoring.

The proof of voting scripts running at 300 upvotes/minute!

With that type of speed, 300 upvotes/minute with less than 5% deviation for 40 straight minutes is statistically impossible.

Sadly, this should scare everyone here, as well as everyone on Reddit. This means that whoever is in charge of these scripts can not only upvote whatever they want to #1 on /r/All, they can also make whatever they want disappear, to control whatever agenda they wish.

Since Reddit is so popular, it could be a lone person with computer skills, but it could be a business that manipulates money, or it could even be a Government.

Reddit can't be trusted any longer. Be wary of what you read and the upvote/downvote score on any post.

Good luck to you all. Go underdogs! (you)


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I'd go upvote that dude's post, but you told me to quit Reddit.
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It's been like this since the elextion. There are like 5 different anti trump subreddits that make it to r/all.
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Three thoughts

1)It has been shown that it is doesn't take much to nudge a Reddit post one way or the other.

2)Flocking behavior and karma momentum are very real things.

3)when your whole existence and almost every post and response has been built upon a bed of memes, don't be surprised when people get tired of it. Most People go to thr front page reddit for some light humor, feel good stories or major breaking news. They don't want to read the rantings of a bunch of autists
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Wait, there are people that actually trust Reddit and take it as legitimate? I hope they never find out about WWE.
Clarence Worley
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aggie93 said:

Wait, there are people that actually trust Reddit and take it as legitimate? I hope they never find out about WWE.


There are a lot of naive kids out there that think it's all user based, when it's actually being used an indoctrination tool to push the left's agenda.
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UncleNateFitch said:

For those not in the know, it's carefully manipulated to push anti conservative/anti Trump propaganda. Below is one piece of evidence of this activity.

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You weren't wrong. Here.. Statistical proof of vote manipulation scripts. Sincerely, a non T_D poster (me) : The_Donald

Some arrogant scripter/botter decided to turn his script up to 300 upvotes/minute in the last hour, which made it extremely easy to track and prove (finally) that it is happening. Didn't everyone love that middle finger with "**** You" written under it? I sure didn't, when I was browsing with my 10 year old nephew and it was the #1 post! (WTF Reddit Admins?!)

The_Donald, I may be an outsider to you. I do not post here. However, I want my Reddit back, from when it used to be TWO sided every day and I'd see actual news. I didn't even know the President left the country today, until I was watching my local news channel! "They" downvote EVERYTHING I would like to see.

SO....

Here is your proof.

40 minutes of that #1 post from /r/MarchAgainstTrump, with no faltering upvote/downvote stream, at 300 upvotes/minute.

https://www.reddit.com/tb/6byo2a is the post I was monitoring.

The proof of voting scripts running at 300 upvotes/minute!

With that type of speed, 300 upvotes/minute with less than 5% deviation for 40 straight minutes is statistically impossible.

Sadly, this should scare everyone here, as well as everyone on Reddit. This means that whoever is in charge of these scripts can not only upvote whatever they want to #1 on /r/All, they can also make whatever they want disappear, to control whatever agenda they wish.

Since Reddit is so popular, it could be a lone person with computer skills, but it could be a business that manipulates money, or it could even be a Government.

Reddit can't be trusted any longer. Be wary of what you read and the upvote/downvote score on any post.

Good luck to you all. Go underdogs! (you)





Nope, will still go to Reddit. My front page has every political sub unsubed and is a good experience. I don't care what happened on /r/all.
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voat.co

Your welcome.
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Madman said:

voat.co

Your welcome.


Especially if you're into kiddy porn and white nationalism.
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Lol yea I think everyone is aware that Reddit censors speech and shuts down right wing talk
Madman
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the same can be said for reddit.
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UncleNateFitch said:

aggie93 said:

Wait, there are people that actually trust Reddit and take it as legitimate? I hope they never find out about WWE.
There are a lot of naive kids out there that think it's all user based, when it's actually being used an indoctrination tool to push the left's agenda.
Yeah, and there's a lot of people on r/The_Donald that have yet to figure this out. I'll admit I'm a big fan of r/aww - I mean, where else are you going to see gifs of puppies missing their treat like this:

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Madman said:

the same can be said for reddit.


I mean, Reddit cracking down on that is specifically why voat got more popular.
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Madman said:

voat.co

Your welcome.

They are hurting for money. Donate if you can. "Muh free market" doesn't actually work when free speech is truly allowed
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Honestly I wasn't surprised that it made the front page.

Perhaps scripts were used, but Trump isn't very well liked across the world, and Reddit is a global community.
Madman
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That doesn't explain the majority of new users.

When reddit cracked down on subs like fatpeoplehate tumblrinaction etc even that wasn't the majority of the new users.

The seed the germinated was from rightwing thought being hounded and banned by reddit.

And pedo stuff still exists on reddit along with every other vile thing. It just moves to new subs as mods shut down old. or moves to voat or elsewhere. But saying that voat started for the reasons you did is not true.
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private business doing things how they see fit. blah
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I do check my front page on reddit once or twice a day. It's pretty obvious that there is a skew. The stuff that gets spread is pretty frustrating. Hard to tell if it's more because of hivemind or manipulation, but I've been using the upvote/downvote function on political posts when I can.
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Madman said:

That doesn't explain the majority of new users.

When reddit cracked down on subs like fatpeoplehate tumblrinaction etc even that wasn't the majority of the new users.

The seed the germinated was from rightwing thought being hounded and banned by reddit.

And pedo stuff still exists on reddit along with every other vile thing. It just moves to new subs as mods shut down old. or moves to voat or elsewhere. But saying that voat started for the reasons you did is not true.


I haven't been to voat since the pao fiasco but what I said was pretty much what was happening at that point. I have no idea what it's grown since.
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Subscribing to the Donald somewhat evens things out for me, but they are too neurotically focused on memes to have much intelligent discussion.
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A lot of people jumped over to voat when Reddit shut down the pedogate discussion actually. (Referring to when Reddit censored any discussion of Podesta being a pedo).
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Can you link the original post? I want to upvote it.
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Found it

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6c047p/you_werent_wrong_here_statistical_proof_of_vote/
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I'll admit I'm a big fan of r/aww - I mean, where else are you going to see gifs of puppies missing their treat like this:
You mean "puppers?" Or "doggos?"

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I remember an article that said Twitter was found to delete pro trump tweets and boost pro lib tweets.
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I forgot about the pizza gate people.
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Maroon Stormtrooper said:

I remember an article that said Twitter was found to delete pro trump tweets and boost pro lib tweets.
they unverified Milo...twice. He may have been banned at one point as well.
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I have never really visited redditt and don't know much about it. But now I think I need to go over there and upvote some stuff.
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Any website with a discovery algorithm that is based on user voting or views will be susceptible to manipulation through either bots or coordinated human campaigns. It happens on reddit. It happens on twitter. It happens on Facebook. Hell, it even happens on Texags.

I don't have advice for how to fix it, but I would say that people should expect manipulation in nearly every piece of digital content to arrive on their screens.
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TexAgs hides unpopular posts? TexAgs has a dislike vote down button?
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ReaganAg12 said:

TexAgs hides unpopular posts? TexAgs has a dislike vote down button?


Yes but I think people here call it "flagging."
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rhoswen said:

ReaganAg12 said:

TexAgs hides unpopular posts? TexAgs has a dislike vote down button?


Yes but I think people here call it "flagging."
All my threads get flagged
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Duncan Idaho said:

Three thoughts

1)It has been shown that it is doesn't take much to nudge a Reddit post one way or the other.

2)Flocking behavior and karma momentum are very real things.

3)when your whole existence and almost every post and response has been built upon a bed of memes, don't be surprised when people get tired of it. Most People go to thr front page reddit for some light humor, feel good stories or major breaking news. They don't want to read the rantings of a bunch of autists


1 and 2 are true, but they are not as constant as what is in the OP if it's real. There would naturally be a deviation over time in the rate of upvotes/karma, not a constant, linear increase. If this were natural, you would see some kind of S curve as the post started with minimal votes and then gained popularity and brought in more and more votes, and then leveled off as the pool of people who haven't voted it up and actually care grows smaller and smaller. You may also dips as the post rises in popularity only to get pushed down as it becomes more visible and those who don't like it find it. This would result in a highly variable votes/min/min rate.

A linear rate signals a cyclic action operating on a set interval. This results in the constant votes/min rate of the OP.
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UncleNateFitch said:

aggie93 said:

Wait, there are people that actually trust Reddit and take it as legitimate? I hope they never find out about WWE.


There are a lot of naive kids out there that think it's all user based, when it's actually being used an indoctrination tool to push the left's agenda.
Like the Daily Show, Colbert, Kimmel, etc. and millennials lap up their misinformation.
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