***** OFFICIAL 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD *****

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Rossticus
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Disappointing attitude from Roger Stone regarding Trump ground game in NV as part of an interview with Boston Herald.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-ally-roger-stone-says-trump-has-run-one-of-the-worst-campaigns-in-history-in-nevada/
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Rossticus said:

Disappointing attitude from Roger Stone regarding Trump ground game in NV as part of an interview with Boston Herald.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-ally-roger-stone-says-trump-has-run-one-of-the-worst-campaigns-in-history-in-nevada/

That's the guy Trump fired, right?
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Rossticus said:

Disappointing attitude from Roger Stone regarding Trump ground game in NV as part of an interview with Boston Herald.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-ally-roger-stone-says-trump-has-run-one-of-the-worst-campaigns-in-history-in-nevada/
Roger Stone is a kook
aggiehawg
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Yes. But he fired Roger very early in the process before he hired Lewandowski and then Manafort and then KellyAnne Conway.
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captkirk said:

Rossticus said:

Disappointing attitude from Roger Stone regarding Trump ground game in NV as part of an interview with Boston Herald.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-ally-roger-stone-says-trump-has-run-one-of-the-worst-campaigns-in-history-in-nevada/
Roger Stone is a kook


But a kook that knows his ***** And no more kooky than Steve Bannon, for comparison.
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VaultingChemist
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FireAg said:

VaultingChemist said:

FireAg said:

VaultingChemist said:

Trump is polling at +14 with independents in Florida. Romney was +10 in 2012.
Interesting...where did you see that?
Tigerdroppings
And they sourced it from?
I didn't find a source. CNN has Trump only +2 among independents in Florida. Is that any more accurate?
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VaultingChemist said:

FireAg said:

VaultingChemist said:

FireAg said:

VaultingChemist said:

Trump is polling at +14 with independents in Florida. Romney was +10 in 2012.
Interesting...where did you see that?
Tigerdroppings
And they sourced it from?
I didn't find a source. CNN has Trump only +2 among independents in Florida. Is that any more accurate?
It's certainly interesting in FL...
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Tanya 93 said:

I got gingerbread and apple cider.

Then discovered I was at the wrong place.

Off to the JH.
So Cryptic... did you realize you were inline at Starbucks for 35 minutes? Now you're going to the Jailhouse?

Say "hi" to Hillary for me.
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aggiehawg said:

Yes. But he fired Roger very early in the process before he hired Lewandowski and then Manafort and then KellyAnne Conway.
"best people"
The Collective
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srx said:

"best people"


They're tremendous.
black_hat_ag
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IN!
gibbs2016
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Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Philip J Fry
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Votecaster are not real votes. Hth.
Artorias
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gibbs2016 said:

Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Slate.com

LOL
justcallmeharry
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"Florida poll clerks fired after police called to dispute"

"The incident began when the election workers could not agree over where volunteers could stand, WSVN reported. At some point, police were called to the Herb Skolnick Community Center; however, no arrests were made.

Dr. Brenda Snipes, the supervisor of elections, fired both workers and ordered them to leave the polling stations, NBC Miami reported."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/08/florida-poll-clerks-fired-after-police-called-to-dispute.html

Lots of funs stuff.
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gibbs2016 said:

Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Rep turnout is slightly up. Dem turnout is slightly down. How is that not looking good for Trump?
BWD06
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Philip J Fry said:

Votecaster are not real votes. Hth.

"Each candidate's vote total is calculated based on the number of known ballots cast during early voting and voters' candidate preferences as derived from pre-election polls and microtargeting models. Real-time turnout data will be available from a sampling of polling places later in the day."
Philip J Fry
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Again, not real votes. Hth
aggie_fan13
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We should All listen to the right win conspiracy theorist polls I bet they have us winning
ClickClack
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Also, these are the people behind Votecastr (Slate) - not biased at all:

Quote:

This year, for the fifth time, Slate staffers and contributors are revealing how they're voting in the presidential election. This tradition of ours breaks with journalistic custom; journalists are typically reluctant to reveal their political preferences, for fear of appearing biased. But, as our founding editor Michael Kinsley pointed out when we began this practice in 2000, "an opinion is not a bias!" Our jobs as journalists require us to gather accurate facts and assess them with intellectual rigor and honesty, no matter what we believe going in; part of that work entails an effort to be aware of our own assumptions as we go. And that's all the more reason to make you, our readers, aware of those assumptions as well.

So in that spirit, I can disclose that Clinton has won the Slate vote. We counted 59 votes for Clinton, 1 for Evan McMullin (a write-in in Ohio), and 1 for Jill Stein. It's a result that won't surprise followers of our Trump Apocalypse Watch, which takes as its premise the idea that the election of this particular Republican nominee would be a bad outcome for the country. It's also in line with our vote breakdown in past years, which showed the Democratic candidate as the heavy favorite with occasional nods to third-party and GOP candidates, although this is the first year that no one cast a vote for the GOP nominee.

We also asked staffers to share their primary votes. The tally was Clinton 31, Sanders 9, and Kasich 3. Below, Slatesters explain why they've made their decisions.
Julia Turner, editor in chief

L.V. Anderson, associate editor
General election: Hillary Clinton
Primary:
Clinton
I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary, and I will vote for her on Tuesday. I would be excited to vote for Clinton even if she weren't running against a bigoted, hateful, incompetent narcissist. Clinton isn't perfectno one isbut she is intelligent, experienced, pragmatic, empathetic, and inspiring. I have no doubt that she wants to make the country work better for everyone, not just the obscenely wealthy. (Whether Congress lets her get anything done is another question.)

Allison Benedikt, news director
General election: Clinton
Primary:
I didn't vote. No good excuse for this. It would have been for Hillary.
I would be voting for Hillary even if Jeb or Marco or Kasich had won and even if Jeb or Marco or Kasich were women. Meaning: I am voting for Hillary because she is the candidate running whose positions come closest to matching my own. I am also PSYCHED that she is a woman and cannot imagine a Democrat I would have voted against in a race with Trump. So I have three good reasons: I am voting for Hillary because she is not Trump, because she is a woman, and because she holds the correct position on more issues than anyone else in the race. It's pretty simple. Also, I'm not an idiot.

Laura Bennett, senior editor
General election: Clinton
Primary:
Clinton
I'm tired of seeing Trump, hearing Trump, thinking about Trump, fearing the bright little ping of a new New York Times news alert about sexually humiliated beauty pageant contestants every time I look at my phone, watching Slate's traffic numbers balloon with each new vile shenanigan, accommodating myself to an emotional baseline of disgust and confusion and shame. I think Hillary will win and I cannot wait.

Chris Berube, producer of The Gist
General: N/A
Primary
: N/A
As a Canadian, sadly, I do not have a vote. But I have decided to live in this country, for some forgotten reason, and its well-being is important to me. I am confident the Democrats' early voting advantage in states like North Carolina and James Comey's exoneration will seal this election for Clinton. However, if something goes wrong, I would like to remind liberal-minded Americans thatthe marriage bureau at the City Clerk's Office in Brooklyn opens at 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday and there are plenty of unmarried Canadian expatriates living here who are happy to do you a favour. You'll love it there.
Artorias
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Votecastr had Jill Stein on the Nevada ballot.

Hint: she isn't on the NV ballot.
TXAggie2011
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mugwurt said:

Rossticus said:

Trump has officially filed his first lawsuit (in Clark Co. NV) to disallow certain early votes. I have a feeling you're going to have some of these in every swing state. This election won't be resolved today. Whether for the purposes of appearances or pragmatism, Trump is going to attack this election on every front.
Good. Root out every instance of voter fraud.
They're challenging allowing voters who were already in line at the time the polls closed to vote.

That lawsuit will go nowhere. That isn't voter fraud.
gibbs2016
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VaultingChemist said:

gibbs2016 said:

Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Rep turnout is slightly up. Dem turnout is slightly down. How is that not looking good for Trump?
280k is a lot to make up in Florida or am I wrong? Idk.. I believe that CNN report that Trump is only +2 among Independents is probably BS. CNN will not stop until Clinton is elected or Trump is elected outright. And then they will be either non stop with bashing every decision Trump makes or praising every decision from Hilldog
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But a kook that knows his ***** And no more kooky than Steve Bannon, for comparison.


On an unrelated note, was bored and watched a repeat of the movie Recount last night. When Jim Baker gets to Florida to take over the legal maneuvering, he says it's time for the Governor's public to show up and protest. He then instructs his assistant to call Roger Stone. The next scene are the zanies decked out in red, white and blue and playing guitars and singing.

Have watched that show a few times, but never picked up on that reference until last night.
Artorias
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TXAggie2011 said:

mugwurt said:

Rossticus said:

Trump has officially filed his first lawsuit (in Clark Co. NV) to disallow certain early votes. I have a feeling you're going to have some of these in every swing state. This election won't be resolved today. Whether for the purposes of appearances or pragmatism, Trump is going to attack this election on every front.
Good. Root out every instance of voter fraud.
They're challenging allowing voters who were already in line at the time the polls closed to vote.

That lawsuit will go nowhere. That isn't voter fraud.
Wrong. Just reported they are claiming people were allowed to get in line after the cutoff.
FireAg
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gibbs2016 said:

VaultingChemist said:

gibbs2016 said:

Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Rep turnout is slightly up. Dem turnout is slightly down. How is that not looking good for Trump?
280k is a lot to make up in Florida or am I wrong? Idk.. I believe that CNN report that Trump is only +2 among Independents is probably BS. CNN will not stop until Clinton is elected or Trump is elected outright. And then they will be either non stop with bashing every decision Trump makes or praising every decision from Hilldog
Except that the 280K aren't real votes...they are simulated based on early voting returns...
Philip J Fry
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TXAggie2011 said:

mugwurt said:

Rossticus said:

Trump has officially filed his first lawsuit (in Clark Co. NV) to disallow certain early votes. I have a feeling you're going to have some of these in every swing state. This election won't be resolved today. Whether for the purposes of appearances or pragmatism, Trump is going to attack this election on every front.
Good. Root out every instance of voter fraud.
They're challenging allowing voters who were already in line at the time the polls closed to vote.

That lawsuit will go nowhere. That isn't voter fraud.


Incorrect. As reported by FNC, they are protesting allowing people to vote who joined the line late.
FireAg
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Philip J Fry said:

TXAggie2011 said:

mugwurt said:

Rossticus said:

Trump has officially filed his first lawsuit (in Clark Co. NV) to disallow certain early votes. I have a feeling you're going to have some of these in every swing state. This election won't be resolved today. Whether for the purposes of appearances or pragmatism, Trump is going to attack this election on every front.
Good. Root out every instance of voter fraud.
They're challenging allowing voters who were already in line at the time the polls closed to vote.

That lawsuit will go nowhere. That isn't voter fraud.


Incorrect. As reported by FNC, they are protesting allowing people to vote who joined the line late.
Not their fault the bus from Baja was stuck in traffic...
VaultingChemist
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gibbs2016 said:

VaultingChemist said:

gibbs2016 said:



Not looking good for Trump in Florida, he is down 280k votes according to Votecastr. He will have to have huge late push and around 75% of the ind. to be for him
Rep turnout is slightly up. Dem turnout is slightly down. How is that not looking good for Trump?
280k is a lot to make up in Florida or am I wrong? Idk.. I believe that CNN report that Trump is only +2 among Independents is probably BS. CNN will not stop until Clinton is elected or Trump is elected outright. And then they will be either non stop with bashing every decision Trump makes or praising every decision from Hilldog
From article: Florida Early Voting

Quote:

It remains to be seen who these unaffiliated Floridians will vote for, but in a recent Remington Research poll, 49 percent of those without a party affiliation said they were going to vote for Donald Trump compared to 36 who selected Hillary Clinton. In the latest New York Times/Sienna poll, among voters who either identified as Independent or "other," 45 percent chose Donald Trump and 33 percent chose Hillary Clinton.
aginresearch
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Edit: Looking at wrong numbers.
Bobaloo
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Whole thing is a mess. This country can count trillions of dollars and validate the balances yet can't seem to count votes.
BWD06
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ClickClack said:

Also, these are the people behind Votecastr (Slate) - not biased at all:

Quote:

This year, for the fifth time, Slate staffers and contributors are revealing how they're voting in the presidential election. This tradition of ours breaks with journalistic custom; journalists are typically reluctant to reveal their political preferences, for fear of appearing biased. But, as our founding editor Michael Kinsley pointed out when we began this practice in 2000, "an opinion is not a bias!" Our jobs as journalists require us to gather accurate facts and assess them with intellectual rigor and honesty, no matter what we believe going in; part of that work entails an effort to be aware of our own assumptions as we go. And that's all the more reason to make you, our readers, aware of those assumptions as well.

So in that spirit, I can disclose that Clinton has won the Slate vote. We counted 59 votes for Clinton, 1 for Evan McMullin (a write-in in Ohio), and 1 for Jill Stein. It's a result that won't surprise followers of our Trump Apocalypse Watch, which takes as its premise the idea that the election of this particular Republican nominee would be a bad outcome for the country. It's also in line with our vote breakdown in past years, which showed the Democratic candidate as the heavy favorite with occasional nods to third-party and GOP candidates, although this is the first year that no one cast a vote for the GOP nominee.

We also asked staffers to share their primary votes. The tally was Clinton 31, Sanders 9, and Kasich 3. Below, Slatesters explain why they've made their decisions.
Julia Turner, editor in chief

L.V. Anderson, associate editor
General election: Hillary Clinton
Primary:
Clinton
I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary, and I will vote for her on Tuesday. I would be excited to vote for Clinton even if she weren't running against a bigoted, hateful, incompetent narcissist. Clinton isn't perfectno one isbut she is intelligent, experienced, pragmatic, empathetic, and inspiring. I have no doubt that she wants to make the country work better for everyone, not just the obscenely wealthy. (Whether Congress lets her get anything done is another question.)

Allison Benedikt, news director
General election: Clinton
Primary:
I didn't vote. No good excuse for this. It would have been for Hillary.
I would be voting for Hillary even if Jeb or Marco or Kasich had won and even if Jeb or Marco or Kasich were women. Meaning: I am voting for Hillary because she is the candidate running whose positions come closest to matching my own. I am also PSYCHED that she is a woman and cannot imagine a Democrat I would have voted against in a race with Trump. So I have three good reasons: I am voting for Hillary because she is not Trump, because she is a woman, and because she holds the correct position on more issues than anyone else in the race. It's pretty simple. Also, I'm not an idiot.

Laura Bennett, senior editor
General election: Clinton
Primary:
Clinton
I'm tired of seeing Trump, hearing Trump, thinking about Trump, fearing the bright little ping of a new New York Times news alert about sexually humiliated beauty pageant contestants every time I look at my phone, watching Slate's traffic numbers balloon with each new vile shenanigan, accommodating myself to an emotional baseline of disgust and confusion and shame. I think Hillary will win and I cannot wait.

Chris Berube, producer of The Gist
General: N/A
Primary
: N/A
As a Canadian, sadly, I do not have a vote. But I have decided to live in this country, for some forgotten reason, and its well-being is important to me. I am confident the Democrats' early voting advantage in states like North Carolina and James Comey's exoneration will seal this election for Clinton. However, if something goes wrong, I would like to remind liberal-minded Americans thatthe marriage bureau at the City Clerk's Office in Brooklyn opens at 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday and there are plenty of unmarried Canadian expatriates living here who are happy to do you a favour. You'll love it there.

Slate is not "behind" Votecaster ... it is a partnership with Vice/Slate and Votecastr. Regarding slate's Who we're voting for ... I give them credit for being transparent.
vette
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So is Votecastr essentially telling us that Donald isn't going to win?
BWD06
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vette said:

So is Votecastr essentially telling us that Donald isn't going to win?
I don't think they would make that claim. But their estimates suggest a difficult path based on their current estimates.
 
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