https://www.salon.com/2022/06/09/exclusive-self-described-christian-fascist-movement-is-trying-to-sabotage-lgbtq-pride-month/?fbclid=IwAR0_jzAZsPoJJ0HR8eyI8k29QQIMG0tXVI0v_O0jMQNhxxTqJ4zL_rsNHOY

sigh, yet another thread about glbtq crap on the R/P board.

Maybe we needan "I just don't want to be bothered with gay/trans stuff' philosophy board.

Haha bustup is back.

Silian Rail said:

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https://www.salon.com/2022/06/09/exclusive-self-described-christian-fascist-movement-is-trying-to-sabotage-lgbtq-pride-month/?fbclid=IwAR0_jzAZsPoJJ0HR8eyI8k29QQIMG0tXVI0v_O0jMQNhxxTqJ4zL_rsNHOY

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The 'fascism' part seemed fringe but I do t know how anyone was surprised by the response. The idea of bringing kids to 1) a bar and 2) a drag show is just nuts. I don't care what others chose to do privately, but forcing it on the public is never going to work…and trying to promote it to kids is just going to bring the weight of the moral majority. This is also why you don't take kids to 'meet the stripper' day

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Silian Rail said:

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https://www.salon.com/2022/06/09/exclusive-self-described-christian-fascist-movement-is-trying-to-sabotage-lgbtq-pride-month/?fbclid=IwAR0_jzAZsPoJJ0HR8eyI8k29QQIMG0tXVI0v_O0jMQNhxxTqJ4zL_rsNHOY

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The 'fascism' part seemed fringe but I do t know how anyone was surprised by the response. The idea of bringing kids to 1) a bar and 2) a drag show is just nuts. I don't care what others chose to do privately, but forcing it on the public is never going to work…and trying to promote it to kids is just going to bring the weight of the moral majority. This is also why you don't take kids to 'meet the stripper' day

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I would say that I am not surprised by the response, but I do think this is going into dangerous territory. I fear there will be some sort of violence or killing at one of these drag events. It's like a pizzagate thing all over again. This groomer thing is going to resonate with some nut that thinks he's got to go 'save the kids' and shoot something up.

I have only seen the short clips associated with this story so I can't speak for all these events, but what I saw was pretty tame and not overtly sexual. It does strike me as hypocritical for many on the right to be so rigid about parents rights when it comes to some of the things going on lately (vaccines, masks, CRT, etc.) yet their head is exploding over these parents allowing their kids to go this event.

nortex97 said:

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sigh, yet another thread about glbtq crap on the R/P board.

Maybe we needan "I just don't want to be bothered with gay/trans stuff' philosophy board.

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Did you not know that the alternate name for R&P is G&A (Gay & Abortion)?

Incredibly PG? How?

also, you're a few years behind on your definition of conservative. The libertarians lost, the good guys one. You don't get to abuse your child just because he's yours.

Macarthur said:

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Silian Rail said:

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https://www.salon.com/2022/06/09/exclusive-self-described-christian-fascist-movement-is-trying-to-sabotage-lgbtq-pride-month/?fbclid=IwAR0_jzAZsPoJJ0HR8eyI8k29QQIMG0tXVI0v_O0jMQNhxxTqJ4zL_rsNHOY

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The 'fascism' part seemed fringe but I do t know how anyone was surprised by the response. The idea of bringing kids to 1) a bar and 2) a drag show is just nuts. I don't care what others chose to do privately, but forcing it on the public is never going to work…and trying to promote it to kids is just going to bring the weight of the moral majority. This is also why you don't take kids to 'meet the stripper' day

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I would say that I am not surprised by the response, but I do think this is going into dangerous territory. I fear there will be some sort of violence or killing at one of these drag events. It's like a pizzagate thing all over again. This groomer thing is going to resonate with some nut that thinks he's got to go 'save the kids' and shoot something up.

I have only seen the short clips associated with this story so I can't speak for all these events, but what I saw was pretty tame and not overtly sexual. It does strike me as hypocritical for many on the right to be so rigid about parents rights when it comes to some of the things going on lately (vaccines, masks, CRT, etc.) yet their head is exploding over these parents allowing their kids to go this event.

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Ya man, it's really weird. It's almost like some things are good and some things are bad.

Macarthur said:

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Silian Rail said:

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Incredibly PG? How?

also, you're a few years behind on your definition of conservative. The libertarians lost, the good guys one. You don't get to abuse your child just because he's yours.

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Give me a break. That video does not show abuse.

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What do you call a grown man sexually dancing in front of children? It's different if he has a wig on I guess?

So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this?

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above.

Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this? Yes

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?Drag show




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above. That's…disturbing. To say the least

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Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this?

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above.

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Why? Solid trigger and muzzle discipline all around.

Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this?

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above.

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Yes actually and any objective observer will too. Sex and porn hijack the brain in a way that guns don't. They're actually addictive or impede/redirect development and we have research showing that. So baby-stepping kids into a world like drag or sexual identity via the groomers in school has a much more nefarious impact than giving a kid an airsoft gun or hunting with him.

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Sexually dancing? geez...so you let your kids watch music videos? how about awards shows? broadway shows?

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Yes, sexually dancing. And also no, I have very young children and that kind of stuff doesn't interest them, but I wouldn't let them watch music videos or awards shows. I guess some broadway shows would be okay, but not of garish hyper sexualized caricatures wearing thongs

Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this?

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above.

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What about that picture is icky? Are you worried affluent white nuclear families are going to hurt you?

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AGC said:

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Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this?

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above.

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Yes actually and any objective observer will too. Sex and porn hijack the brain in a way that guns don't. They're actually addictive or impede/redirect development and we have research showing that. So baby-stepping kids into a world like drag or sexual identity via the groomers in school has a much more nefarious impact than giving a kid an airsoft gun or hunting with him.

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lol..you are making some huge leaps there.

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Says the guy who posted some rando family's picture on the internet as a rebuttal to taking children to a 21+ establishment.

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Macarthur said:

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So, you're okay telling parents they can't take their kids to this? Yes

Let me ask you this....You have more of an issue of the drag show or this, as it relates to kids?Drag show




See, I find the drag show much less icky than the photo above. That's…disturbing. To say the least

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And I find it quite disturbing the other way around.

And Isn't it interesting how parents rights are fine until the clash with what i believe they should be doing.

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No, not really all that interesting. "Parents rights" does mean they can do whatever they want with their children. Pretty basic stuff actually.

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I used that one, in particular, because it's a public figure, but there are plenty floating around out there with much smaller children.

There's also tons of photos of kids that have smeared blood on their face after their first kill. I've even seen one that a little girl take a bite of the deer's heart after it's freshly killed.

I think things like that POTENTIALLY are far more harmful that watching guys dancing around in women's clothes. And for the record, I don't care that you hunt deer...that's not the issue.

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One is a rite of passage and initiation into a community/clan. Wholesome, ancient, and strengthens ties to family and community.

The other is grooming.

Hey another thread in which small governments conservatives argue the government should have the power to ban things they don't like. Cool, cool...

Macarthur said:

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Macarthur said:

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I used that one, in particular, because it's a public figure, but there are plenty floating around out there with much smaller children.

There's also tons of photos of kids that have smeared blood on their face after their first kill. I've even seen one that a little girl take a bite of the deer's heart after it's freshly killed.

I think things like that POTENTIALLY are far more harmful that watching guys dancing around in women's clothes. And for the record, I don't care that you hunt deer...that's not the issue.

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One is a rite of passage and initiation into a community/clan. Wholesome, ancient, and strengthens ties to family and community.

The other is grooming.

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I see it as grooming the other way around. you think smearing blood on a kids face is wholesome?

See how some folks have diff views.....crazy huh?

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Grooming them into what? Hunting? I absolutely think it's wholesome when initiating a child/adolescent into the hunting "tribe" or what have you.

Of course people have different views. Some of them are wrong.

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Hey another thread in which small governments conservatives argue the government should have the power to ban things they don't like. Cool, cool...

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I don't know if this is referring to me, but if so- I am in no way a "small government conservative."

Macarthur said:

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Macarthur said:

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I used that one, in particular, because it's a public figure, but there are plenty floating around out there with much smaller children.

There's also tons of photos of kids that have smeared blood on their face after their first kill. I've even seen one that a little girl take a bite of the deer's heart after it's freshly killed.

I think things like that POTENTIALLY are far more harmful that watching guys dancing around in women's clothes. And for the record, I don't care that you hunt deer...that's not the issue.

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One is a rite of passage and initiation into a community/clan. Wholesome, ancient, and strengthens ties to family and community.

The other is grooming.

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I see it as grooming the other way around. you think smearing blood on a kids face is wholesome?

See how some folks have diff views.....crazy huh?

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I've mentioned it many times but I volunteered with an anti-trafficking org and have many friends that foster and adopt. This is textbook grooming for sex by normalizing and introducing pride and drag at this age without the context of what it is to people who don't and can't understand it.

Guns aren't comparable and you should be embarrassed this even has to be typed. Society doesn't exploit and use children who grow up hunting in the way they do children who grow up exposed to sex shows and sexual identity.

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Macarthur said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Macarthur said:

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I used that one, in particular, because it's a public figure, but there are plenty floating around out there with much smaller children.

There's also tons of photos of kids that have smeared blood on their face after their first kill. I've even seen one that a little girl take a bite of the deer's heart after it's freshly killed.

I think things like that POTENTIALLY are far more harmful that watching guys dancing around in women's clothes. And for the record, I don't care that you hunt deer...that's not the issue.

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One is a rite of passage and initiation into a community/clan. Wholesome, ancient, and strengthens ties to family and community.

The other is grooming.

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I see it as grooming the other way around. you think smearing blood on a kids face is wholesome?

See how some folks have diff views.....crazy huh?

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I've mentioned it many times but I volunteered with an anti-trafficking org and have many friends that foster and adopt. This is textbook grooming for sex by normalizing and introducing pride and drag at this age without the context of what it is to people who don't and can't understand it.

Guns aren't comparable and you should be embarrassed this even has to be typed. Society doesn't exploit and use children who grow up hunting in the way they do children who grow up exposed to sex shows and sexual identity.

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I say you should be ashamed.

This old trope of homosexuals and trans being more likely to be into pediophilia has been debunked over and over again.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/11/why-its-not-grooming-what-research-says-about-gend/