Redstone said:
Supremacy claims ("hubris"? Sure, of a type) are inherent to religion.
Is it not accurate that Henry and Luther's arguments for reform were (and are!, sometimes) correct - as were the Catholic reformers of the time ....
AND
that Henry's spiritual supremacy claims were and are wrong,
and
that Luther's rejection of some longstanding Sacramental claims (and of more than a bit of the canon, amongst much else) were and are wrong
?
I really don't want to take the bait to get into a discussion away from what actually started this discussion - Jesus Christ as our focus (ironically mirroring the heart of the debate generating the Reformation, LOL).
So let's get back to the only thing of true importance and what prompted my initial response to your earlier post. What is the center of our faith, and the source of our salvation?
The 2nd person of the Triune God. The Son. The perfect Lamb. God Incarnate. Our Savior. Jesus Christ. The propitiation of our sins.
You said that only the RCC and Orthodox had Jesus as the center focus of their Mass. I said that is in error. And now here we are talking about what Luther and Henry were and were not right about, and going down the road of what is and is not a Sacrament and what is and is not Canon.
Here's the deal, and here's why I am a Creedal Confessing Lutheran. Christ alone is the source of our salvation. Nothing else but Christ. Nothing in addition to him, not even 0.00000001% in addition to him. His death on the cross and resurrection was the COMPLETE propitiation for our sins.
Any doctrine, or any portion of any doctrine, that points to anything other than, or in addition to, Christ as being needed for salvation is heterodoxy leading to heresy. That was the entire point of the Reformation...to get us back to the original teaching of the Gospel as professed by the Apostles and the early Church fathers like Augustine, Clement, Jerome, Gregory the Great, John Chrysostom, etc.