Any idea what this was about?

Need to get a baseline of sorts here..

Faithful Ag said:

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The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to 3 children multiple times over a period of many months. The culmination was a miracle that is known as the miracle of the sun. There is a good movie about it that recently came out.

Is that what you are asking about?

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Yes, if data was available showing a more complete description/details of what really happened, would that peak your interest? It should be available here shortly..next week perhaps.

schmendeler said:

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i would say the likelihood of the virgin mary appearing to people and extra-terrestrials doing the same are roughly equal.

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Any interest in viewing the data?

schmendeler said:

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it's been discussed here in the past. my recollection is it involves a bunch of people staring into the sun for a period of time and then having visions of it moving. not particularly compelling.

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What if a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute was used to collect data suggesting something DID in fact, occur? Yes, its very compelling.

Thaddeus73 said:

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Just before Red October in Russia, she warned us all about the commies coming to power there, and spreading her errors throughout the world. She was 100% correct on that.

She also warned us all about another worse war to come, and was 100% right on that.

All of the drenched people in the rain that day were dry after her appearance, when rose petals fell from the sky.

Mary, Mother of the Eucharist, pray for us...

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South African Boer prophet Nicholas van Rensburg prophesied similarly.

jkag89 said:

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Spyderman said:

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schmendeler said:

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it's been discussed here in the past. my recollection is it involves a bunch of people staring into the sun for a period of time and then having visions of it moving. not particularly compelling.

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What if a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute was used to collect data suggesting something DID in fact, occur? Yes, its very compelling.

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Then how about presenting this compelling evidence.

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Farsight Institute is still working on the project...should be completed in the next couple of weeks. Prelim release of data suggests this was an "orchestrated" event not related to what we would call a deity. Our ancestors were much easier to convince.

This is the point where things get troublesome for many, hence the concern for disruption.

PacifistAg said:

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You keep referencing some group called the Farsight Institute. The same group founded by this guy? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Courtney_Brown

Why should we view them as having any credibility? If the link above is accurate, he claims to be a psychic and to have met Jesus. And he's the origin of the Hale-Bopp alien object myth that led to the Heaven's Gate mass suicide.

Yeah, I'll pass.

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Yes and I understand. I suppose psychic is another name for remote viewer. Don't know about him meeting Jesus though or the suicide event. I suspect the CIA is aware of things as well and they along with the Soviet Union put a lot of resources into using this technique. He seems to be a straight shooter in his presentations however. I can not nor will not judge his heart. Its uncanny when a group of 3-4 viewers "see" remarkably similar things while doing a session.

Here is a movie/documentary giving much of the history of remote viewing:

PacifistAg said:

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Yeah, I'll pass on a YouTube video about psychic spies. Perhaps credible sources would help your case.

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Who is credible?

Who do we want to believe?

I will just present the results of the data collected-no case. Its unsettling to me as well.

Additionally, I believe the Vatican has in its possession things not of this earth. I don't think they want that info released. You can understand why perhaps.

Much basis for that claim is based on the existence of the Chronivisor...a time machine of sorts. Very likely base on either direct material retrieved from ET craft or knowledge imparted from ET.

https://www.gaia.com/article/the-chronovisor-the-vaticans-mysterious-time-travel-device


Get your popcorn..

jkag89 said:

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I was going to go with Rose and Sarah Jane


But I decided I would give Spydie a chance to post the "compelling evidence/data" when it comes available. In all likelihood I won't be swayed anymore by it than the plethora of post on his F16 UFO thread.

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How would the acceptance of this reality effect you? Your world view in particular?

This thread has been instructional for me as well...I never knew the particulars on Courtney Brown via the Wiki page. It does give cause to view more deeply..

one might ask though...does Wiki have an agenda/bias (on many things..)

The Pol thread is just getting out in front of when this subject is accepted. Lessen the shock I suppose.

It touches everything we know as humans and it won't be pleasant for some. Polls indicate upwards of 80% of the population believe in the existence of ET life. Its those 20% that I'm concerned about.

Gaia? Really? Vatican time machines? Goodness.

Spyderman said:

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jkag89 said:

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I was going to go with Rose and Sarah Jane


But I decided I would give Spydie a chance to post the "compelling evidence/data" when it comes available. In all likelihood I won't be swayed anymore by it than the plethora of post on his F16 UFO thread.

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How would the acceptance of this reality effect you? Your world view in particular?

This thread has been instructional for me as well...I never knew the particulars on Courtney Brown via the Wiki page. It does give cause to view more deeply..

one might ask though...does Wiki have an agenda/bias (on many things..)

The Pol thread is just getting out in front of when this subject is accepted. Lessen the shock I suppose.

It touches everything we know as humans and it won't be pleasant for some. Polls indicate upwards of 80% of the population believe in the existence of ET life. Its those 20% that I'm concerned about.

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I believe in the very likely possibility of life elsewhere in our universe, even intelligent life, I also believe it is unlikely that any two will develop in the same relative time and proximity that they would be aware of each other.

Well the Doctor did use the TARDIS to get into the Vatican's Secret Archives, maybe this 'mysterious time machine' in the linked article.

To get everyone to look at the sky so they are too busy to realize that real genocide is occuring.

Meanwhile the Catholic church was officially sponsoring genocide in Europe in the 40s and in Africa in the 70s.

I'd never heard of the Fatima, Portugal incident (or was even knew there was a city of that name).

I thought this was going to be about the Hand of Fatima.

codker92 said:

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To get everyone to look at the sky so they are too busy to realize that real genocide is occuring.

Meanwhile the Catholic church was officially sponsoring genocide in Europe in the 40s and in Africa in the 70s.

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Clearly someone had an agenda here. Eagerly awaiting the results of the remote viewing sessions still...

I think some of you still haven't figured out how God works. God works through people to tell you how much he loves you. Some of these people are what we call 'dead' (we call them Saints) or in the case of the Mother of Jesus - assumed into heaven.

With the blessing of God, she continues her ministry that started when she was a teenager. I don't understand how that can be unsettling for many? Especially Christians who should know better.

Not a Christian so it doesn't matter.

Quoting myself, now:

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Astro mentioned it in one of your other threads, and I think it's worth saying again: if you're going to post a video longer than five or so minutes, it should have some commentary from you along with it. What is this video about? Can you summarize the main points? Why is it of interest to others. What discussion do you want to generate around the video. Whatever else you might feel like adding. Though I largely disagree with you, I have generally enjoyed the topics you've brought up recently. That being said, threads like this typically don't do much to foster discussion. You need to provide some minimal commentary that justifies people committing their time to this video and provides something for them to interact with.

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Jesus did not call himself Christian and neither did Peter or Paul.