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North Texas men, including church pastor, indicted on child pornography violations
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Hopefully the thumbs down is in regards to the horrific act and not the indictment.
It's mind-boggling to me how pervasive and universal this evil is. Government, schools, scouts, business, entertainment, medicine, sports, clergy. You name it and there are people in it sexually exploiting children. For something that inspires such universal outrage, I just don't understand how it can be everywhere, all the time. I'm just baffled that this isn't the leading story in the news every day
It's mind-boggling to me how pervasive and universal this evil is. Government, schools, scouts, business, entertainment, medicine, sports, clergy. You name it and there are people in it sexually exploiting children. For something that inspires such universal outrage, I just don't understand how it can be everywhere, all the time. I'm just baffled that this isn't the leading story in the news every day
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For something that inspires such universal outrage, I just don't understand how it can be everywhere, all the time. I'm just baffled that this isn't the leading story in the news every day
People don't want to see real tragedy on their TVs everyday. What people click on (and therefore, what drives the news) are "Not my problem" news stories. Either ones where they can feel vindicated for their world view or be angry at someone elses.
If anything this current climate has exposed, it's how much the "news" is just another business and shouldn't hold the level of trust people want it to.
(and I am not a "fake news" conspiracy theorist. They are all "showing their rear", so to speak)
How does someone sit on a jury like that to convict? Do they rely on the testimony of law enforcement or do they actually have to look at the evidence? Seems the law enforcement involved would need counseling too if that's all you do.
Bookmarked for when people bag on the Catholic Church.
The world is full of sick people. We were told from the beginning they would use the Church for their own evil purposes.
For ever sick priest there is a sick pastor or university president.
The world is full of sick people. We were told from the beginning they would use the Church for their own evil purposes.
For ever sick priest there is a sick pastor or university president.
let me help you out with something:
1) If you're literally going to bookmark something this horrific just to throw it in someone's face, don't.
2) it's ok to be appalled at your denominations handling of their issue. It's ok to say that moving priests around was the wrong move. It says nothing about your faith, your sects interpretation of Scripture and Tradition, nor Jesus's work on the Cross. You don't need to fight this fight.
3) don't take the bait every time some troll comes over here to post some catholic priest story. The resident Protestants here know that evil is evil and that we all fall short of the Glory of God. We know that no horrible priest is speaking for all the Catholocism. You will get critiques of the Church's cover up, see point 2.
1) If you're literally going to bookmark something this horrific just to throw it in someone's face, don't.
2) it's ok to be appalled at your denominations handling of their issue. It's ok to say that moving priests around was the wrong move. It says nothing about your faith, your sects interpretation of Scripture and Tradition, nor Jesus's work on the Cross. You don't need to fight this fight.
3) don't take the bait every time some troll comes over here to post some catholic priest story. The resident Protestants here know that evil is evil and that we all fall short of the Glory of God. We know that no horrible priest is speaking for all the Catholocism. You will get critiques of the Church's cover up, see point 2.
I was on just such a jury a few years ago. It was the punishment phase of a man like this one, Sunday school teacher, dad of young children, etc. who had just been convicted of many counts of possession and production of child pornography.Martin Q. Blank said:
How does someone sit on a jury like that to convict? Do they rely on the testimony of law enforcement or do they actually have to look at the evidence? Seems the law enforcement involved would need counseling too if that's all you do.
Yes, the prosecutor did choose to make us all view several days of videos, much this man had downloaded but some he had made himself. Of his kids and their neighbor friends. The prosecutor also had every photo on the man's computer printed out on 8 1/2 by 11 paper and stacked on the floor in front of us. Multiple stacks 3-4 feet tall.
The prosecutor's purpose was to make sure we weren't tempted to go light on length of jail time. Ultimately we did choose to give him the max.
I think if you are in leadership for a church you face greater temptations. Satan can take down many more by going after pastors and priests. It's vital each church leader has accountability with a close group of people.
I agree Frok. Church leadership will always be a focal point for the devil's attacks. All, whether lay pastors, elders, pastors, priests, etc. need to have a very good (and willing to tell you the truth) network of friends/supervisors/clergy to keep them accountable and to warn of possible issues/indiscretions.
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I think if you are in leadership for a church you face greater temptations. Satan can take down many more by going after pastors and priests. It's vital each church leader has accountability with a close group of people.
I think it's a little of column A and a little of column B. I don't doubt that Satan targets leaders more, but I also know that being a leader increases your opportunities for failures due to the trust people put in you.
I know you aren't saying this, but there's nothing a leader should be doing that is not good for the rest of us.
Quality post.diehard03 said:
let me help you out with something:
1) If you're literally going to bookmark something this horrific just to throw it in someone's face, don't.
2) it's ok to be appalled at your denominations handling of their issue. It's ok to say that moving priests around was the wrong move. It says nothing about your faith, your sects interpretation of Scripture and Tradition, nor Jesus's work on the Cross. You don't need to fight this fight.
3) don't take the bait every time some troll comes over here to post some catholic priest story. The resident Protestants here know that evil is evil and that we all fall short of the Glory of God. We know that no horrible priest is speaking for all the Catholocism. You will get critiques of the Church's cover up, see point 2.
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