k2aggie07 said:
Yeah. Crazy right? Almost like modern people translating the scriptures into English are laboring under a great deal of theological presuppositions.
And it's not dramatic. Go read it.
https://biblehub.com/text/acts/3-20.htm
https://biblehub.com/text/2_thessalonians/1-9.htm
Why translate "apo" as from and then "away from"? Same exact phrase. Same word. Should be from both times. Or rather, all three, since 2 thess uses it twice and they change mid verse!
Yep. It is also curious how the same word Sheol in the OT is translated as
"Hell"(which is a word created long after the OT was written) half the time and grave the other half the time in the King James translation. And every time "hell" is used it always is used in a punitive nature, I.e. there is a bias.
Same word. Why the different translation of the exact same word? Were the translators divinely inspired also? Or just the authors of Scripture? I favor the latter. And why did the Jews of the OT have zero concept of a Dante or Augustine version of ECT hell? Why did Paul never preach "hell" or the "turn or burn" concept? Surely that should have been a central theme of his message, correct? Why did Jesus only preach and minster to the Jews except in a very few instances? Did He not care that all non Jews were going to an eternal torture chamber unless He reached them? What would that make His and God's character to be as far as our understanding?
One wonders if Gregory of Nyssa had become as historically important as Augustine. The Gospel would truly mean Good News. For all mankind. Which imho, it is.
Read the parable of the sheep and goats.There is no mention of a "sinners prayer"(and actually that can not be found in the Bible as far as I can tell). There is no mention of any belief, much less the "correct" one. The sheep are those who did good, and the goats were those that did evil. And that makes sense to me.
John 3:17
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world(not some of the world)through Him.
Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
In my simple mind, that means that even a poor orphan in India who has never "heard" the Gospel still knows right from wrong and can therefore can glorify God with their lives and not suffer condemnation. Is not that the only logical way that salvation could appear to people who have not heard the Gospel?
And lastly, please show me any Scripture that says that one's view of "hell" has any bearing on one's salvation or communion with the Lord. I can not find one yet many traditionalists believe that beliefs like mine send one to "hell".
The Gospel has been turned by some into a "get out of hell free card" rather than the beautiful relationship with God through Christ as a means of living the most abundant life possible.
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