Catholicism & Fascism

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SoulSlaveAG2005
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PacifistAg said:

So do you think Holocaust jokes are funny? Also, what denomination do you belong to?


Plan-o-menon
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"At a time after World War II when the Vatican was attempting to rehabilitate itself in the esteem of democratic nations after a long period of tolerance for fascism, the Times published a short speech by Pius XII to an American trade delegation in Rome, and dressed it up as both an endorsement of democracy and a denunciation of dictatorship...
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It should be noted that there is not a line in the Pope's speech specifically praising democracy or condemning totalitarianism. The speech could very well have been made by any benevolent prince or dictator giving lip service to "basic human liberties." In fact, at the moment the Pope made this speech, he was giving strong diplomatic support to at least three basically totalitarian Catholic regimes in Spain, Portugal, and Argentina."

Paul Blanshard
Communism, Democracy, And Catholic Power, 1951
PacifistAg
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I don't think he grasps the concept of a discussion board. At this point, he's just purposely ignoring anything addressed to him, and choosing instead to go the conspiracy theorist monologue route.

Personally I think he's a Jesuit plant that goes around to random sites to make flat-earthers and conspiracy theorists look as unhinged as possible. It's probably why his Instagram has more holocaust jokes than actual followers.
Plan-o-menon
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"Germany must become the sword of the Catholic Church."
Pope Leo XIII to Kaiser Wilhelm II

citation: J.J. Murphy - How the Catholic Church Helped Hitler to Power, 1944

https://archive.org/details/HowTheCatholicChurchHelpedHitlerToPower
MinnesotAg
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Plan-o-menon said:

"Germany must become the sword of the Catholic Church."
Pope Leo XIII to Kaiser Wilhelm II

citation: J.J. Murphy - How the Catholic Church Helped Hitler to Power, 1944

https://archive.org/details/HowTheCatholicChurchHelpedHitlerToPower



The German cardinals are becoming the sword in the side to the Catholic Church
swimmerbabe11
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Soooo where do you go to church?
jkag89
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PacifistAg
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Now I can't get this out of my head:

747Ag
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Hmmm... a post was deleted. But on what grounds?
SoulSlaveAG2005
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747Ag said:

Hmmm... a post was deleted. But on what grounds?


Spamming. Plan o is just drive by dropping posts of nonsense.

/*just my guess... I'm not a mod nor staph
PabloSerna
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Plan-o-menon said:

"Germany must become the sword of the Catholic Church."
Pope Leo XIII to Kaiser Wilhelm II

citation: J.J. Murphy - How the Catholic Church Helped Hitler to Power, 1944

https://archive.org/details/HowTheCatholicChurchHelpedHitlerToPower

Out of context quote.
PabloSerna
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I'm good with discussions when they have some basis in truth. There is a stand of fundamentalism in Christianity that abhors anything Catholic and goes out its way to distort the truth even against facts. Jack Chick comes to mind.

For those and those that allow this (ahem.. moderators!) there is a commandment:

Thou shall not bear FALSE WITNESS against thy neighbor.


PacifistAg
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Quote:

For those and those that allow this (ahem.. moderators!) there is a commandment:

Thou shall not bear FALSE WITNESS against thy neighbor.

Are you implying that the moderators should enforce the 10 commandments here?
Plan-o-menon
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A Catholic priest, Bernhard Staempfle, wrote Hitler's "Mein Kampf." Jesuit Herman Muckermann influenced Hitler's racial policies.

From Leo H. Lehmann's 1944 book "Behind the Dictators: A Factual Analysis of the Relationship of Nazi-Fascism and Roman Catholicism":

"Fascism is an epiphenomenon in keeping with the evolution of the Catholic church as directed by the tactics of the Jesuits." quote of L. Segni, Italian socialist, page 61

"All that Hitler says in his Mein Kampf was barrowed almost word for word from the official writings of the Jesuits." page 9

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From Edmund Paris' 1970 book "The Secret History of the Jesuits":

"The Fuhrer had come to power, thanks to the votes of the Catholic Zentrum, only five years before, but most of the objectives cynically revealed in 'Mein Kampf' were already realised; this book, an insolent challenge to the western democracies, was writtren by the Jesuit Father Staempfle and signed by Hitler." page 138
PacifistAg
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Odd to be so fixated on Nazis while you make Holocaust jokes on your Instagram.
Plan-o-menon
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"The whole of the Catholic press, clergy, and hierarchies applauded the treaties with Mussolini and Hitler. We decline to be impressed if the Catholic prelates of Britain, for instance, fell into silence about the German treaties when they declared war on that country. They continued to support the alliance with the Italian Fascists until they were at war with Italy. And the American cardinals and prelates maintained their support generally until the Pope's proud Japanese ally dealt America so foul a blow. The hierarchies have a very poor case against the Pope, and the two elements together supremely represent the Church."

Joseph McCabe
Fascist Romanism Defies Civilization
How The Pope Keeps To The Plot While The World Curses It
The Black International No. 10

https://infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_mccabe/big_blue_books
http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books.php?author=Joseph%20McCabe
http://historiayverdad.org/autores/joseph-mccabe


PacifistAg
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BTW, you never addressed some of the false information you've presented. See below:

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The Federal Reserve: Jerome Powell 2018-Present, trained at Jesuit University
The Bank of England: Mark Carney 2013-Present, a Catholic trained at a Jesuit University
The European Central Bank: Mario Draghi 2011-Present, a Catholic trained at a Jesuit University
Jerome Powell
Undergrad: Princeton
Law School: Georgetown

Princeton isn't a Jesuit school, from what I see. And perhaps he went to Georgetown because it's an elite law school, and not so much for the super secret Jesuit conspiracy club.

Mark Carney
Undergrad: Harvard
Masters: St Peters - Oxford
Doctorate: Nuffield - Oxford

I can't find any reference to these being Jesuit schools. Oxford has a Jesuit presence, but I don't believe it's an explicitly Jesuit school, especially considering Catholics were banned from even attending until the late 1800's. Upon further review, the Jesuit presence at Oxford consists of Campion Hall, which is a private institution within Oxford. He didn't attend Campion Hall, from what I can see.

Mario Draghi
Sapienza University
MIT

Neither of these are Jesuit universities, from what I can see. Perhaps I'm overlooking something though. Here's a link to the Jesuit colleges and universities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_educational_institutions#List_of_Jesuit_universities
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The Roman Catholic Church controls the U.S. military. Examples: the founders of the FBI and CIA were Papal Knights of Malta, the founder of the DIA was trained at a Jesuit University and graduated from seminary school, and the chief of the Strategic Air Command 1957-64 was Papal Knighted in the Order of St. Sylvester.
Can you give names for these people? And how are these examples of the military being owned by the RCC? If these people were all Church of Christ members, would the Church of Christ own the military?
jkag89
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swimmerbabe11
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Dang it, the post was deleted

The word fuehrer was misspelled in the post and I wanted to see if the source was wrong or if he actually took the time to type this stuff out.
Zobel
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I think it was a copy paste with the fuhrer u umlaut special character getting eaten by texags. So +1 for copy paste.
swimmerbabe11
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Edit darn dp

Edit 1:
Testing the umlaut theory u

Edit 2:
Umlaut theory checks out. Texags doesn't like special characters and swimmy is disappointed

SoulSlaveAG2005
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jkag89
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Of course it was a cut and paste. I would not mind a honest discussion of this topic but Plan-o-menon would rather just do a string of "drive by" posts quoting works I'm sure he has never read.

As for special characters, you can not just paste and cut them to TexAgs, you need to use the HTML code to get them to appear.

Cut and paste - Fhrer
Using HTML code - Fúhrer
 
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