of the cancer of political partisanship infecting the church:

We hear a lot around here about the problems w/ "progressive Christianity". This is the flip side of that. This isn't about Trump, so much as it's about invoking terms like "godly" to promote one's political agenda.

Maybe they were thinking more Rehoboam than Hezekiah. It's not like all the biblical leaders were paragons of virtue and piety after all.

And maybe the "godly" comment is in regards to his ego. You're being too nitpicky, you see

Well, I first thought of Manasseh, but then I remembered that he actually repented.

I lost interest when I read "Michele Bachmann"..got to consider the source..

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Can you name a more biblical president?

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https://religionnews.com/2015/02/16/u-s-presidents-religious/

Not sure if this is what you were looking for. Apparently Garfield was straight up clergy. Otherwise Madison, McKinley and Carter were all very religious

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Martin Q. Blank said:

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Can you name a more biblical president?

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https://religionnews.com/2015/02/16/u-s-presidents-religious/

Not sure if this is what you were looking for. Apparently Garfield was straight up clergy. Otherwise Madison, McKinley and Carter were all very religious

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Great. I said biblical president. Pacifist would say that's an oxymoron.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Can you name a more biblical president?

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What makes a president 'biblical'?

That's one of the questions I have, but to me the bigger issue is her calling him "godly", when even he has boasted of never asking for forgiveness and, from what we see, bears no fruit of the Spirit. And using God to advance a partisan agenda should really be disturbing for any follower of Christ.

But, as for your question, the only thing I can think of is the oft-misinterpreted Romans 13, but that would make all political leaders "biblical". It's such an absurd usage of the term "biblical".

PacifistAg said:

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That's one of the questions I have, but to me the bigger issue is her calling him "godly", when even he has boasted of never asking for forgiveness and, from what we see, bears no fruit of the Spirit. And using God to advance a partisan agenda should really be disturbing for any follower of Christ.

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I disagree. When he drinks his little wine and has his little cracker, I guess that is a form of him asking for forgiveness.

PacifistAg said:

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Nope. This is relevant here, as it relates to religion as well considering the objection is over the use of terms like "godly" in the context used.

Thanks for your concern though.

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Would your preference be

A) another gay thread about buttigieg telling pence to blame his creator and discussing the south bend mayor talking about how he's more godly than trump with new posts for every policial person talking about religion,

Or B) rampant whataboutism in this thread (which you don't seem to appreciate)?

That's really where this thread will head.

PacifistAg said:

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That's one of the questions I have, but to me the bigger issue is her calling him "godly", when even he has boasted of never asking for forgiveness and, from what we see, bears no fruit of the Spirit. And using God to advance a partisan agenda should really be disturbing for any follower of Christ.

But, as for your question, the only thing I can think of is the oft-misinterpreted Romans 13, but that would make all political leaders "biblical". It's such an absurd usage of the term "biblical".

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Can you name a more godly president?

Can you not?

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Can you not?

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Of course, but as a pacifist, I would think being president in itself makes you ungodly. i.e. it is a sin for a Christian to hold political office.

One thread and I'm already reminded why I've been posting here less.

PacifistAg said:

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One thread and I'm already reminded why I've been posting here less.

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I see you're unable to disagree with Mrs. Bachmann.

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Martin Q. Blank said:

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One thread and I'm already reminded why I've been posting here less.

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I see you're unable to disagree with Mrs. Bachmann.

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In his defense, he has at least stated an opinion and offered some defense for it. Some on this thread have only offered cryptic questions, dodged inquiries about those questions, and then criticized others for their positions.

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In her defense, it was a prediction. She may be right, but I hope not.

Ask the right and he is King Cyrus
Ask the left and he is the son of Satan

No matter your position, DJT is a man for ages.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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Martin Q. Blank said:

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PacifistAg said:

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One thread and I'm already reminded why I've been posting here less.

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I see you're unable to disagree with Mrs. Bachmann.

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In his defense, he has at least stated an opinion and offered some defense for it. Some on this thread have only offered cryptic questions, dodged inquiries about those questions, and then criticized others for their positions.

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In her defense, it was a prediction. She may be right, but I hope not.

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She offered more than a prediction within that sound bite.

Duggins90 said:

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Ask the right and he is King Cyrus
Ask the left and he is the son of Satan

No matter your position, DJT is a man for ages.

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Well, I'm neither, but just have an issue with professed Christians bestowing labels like "godly" on people for no reason other than being part of the same political tribe. Especially people of such questionable character. That thinking is cancerous and damaging to the witness of the church.

I listen to Jan Markell (the show where Michelle made these comments) almost every Saturday....she is a nut. It is fascinating to listen every week. It is like a glimpse inside the crazy house.

The whole argument she made for thinking trump is the most godly is that he is anti-choice and supports Israel. Now you can discuss if he has those two stances due to his beliefs or out of political expediency

Glad that we can agree that hassleback chick is a loon.

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Duncan Idaho said:

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Glad that we can agree that hassleback chick is a loon.

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Obviously who you think is a loon is totally different than who I think is a loon. Hard enough to discuss on one of the two but combining religion and politics is doomed to failure. And the left is just as bad as the right when they try to use welfare as a religious thing.

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Amen Doc...

And abortion to me is not a religious issue. It is a human rights decision. Baby has rights too.

I can't imagine something I would want less than a "biblical" president.

You guys have seen all the awful things the Bible tells people to do.