If the illegal settlements remain, I can't see the Palestinians agreeing to it.

Why would the Palestinians or any Islamic country go along with a plan to rebuild the temple which would have to be located on top of the Dome of the Rock? That's insane.

None of what you desribed is going to happen.

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Because the arab states know the key to unlocking the financial potential in the middle east is a peace treaty. Most arab nations are hurting financially and they know major investors are not investing their money in the middle east with how unstable it currently is.

There is room on the temple mount for the Dome of the Rock AND a jewish temple. Some jews actually do not believe on top of the temple mount is the correct location of the two previous temples and believe its outside with western wall. Either way I do not see that being an issue.

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If you think the Arab world is willing to give up one of their holiest sites in order to make more money, then you clearly don't grasp the situation. The Foundation Stone is arguably the holiest site in Judaism, and sits in the middle of the Dome. That you think it wouldn't be an issue is absurd, tbh.

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I do not want to beat a dead horse, but again.... the Dome of the Rock would not have to be removed. There is room for a jewish temple on top of the temple mount along with the dome of the rock. I grasp the situation, Im confident in that.

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Except according to Jewish tradition, the Foundation Stone was the site of the Holy of Holies. Going to have a Temple without that? It is the holiest site in Judaism. I don't think you grasp the situation at all. It's delusional, at best.

Any Peace Treaties in the Middle East are going to be very very very difficult to achieve. The settlements that Israelis built on Palestinian land will be an enormous block to get any treaties approved and signed.

The Muslims have too much hate towards Israelis to come to some kind of agreement with them without a lot of major concessions being made.

There is absolutely no way in hell that the current leaders of Israel and Hamas would ever agree to any treaty.

United States needs to stop supporting Israel when they carry out severe policies against the Palestinians. The United States needs to strongly push and support a two-state system. The Palestinians are human beings and need to have their own country.

This reminds me of the crazy blood moon threads we used to have.

If you think the Palestinians or any Muslim leaders are going to give up the Dome of the Rock, al-Aqsa, or any territory on top of the Noble sanctuary (temple mount) you're nuts. They won't do it for money, peace, or favor from Trump. If they did, their own people would kill them. They fear their own people more than they fear Israel or America.

A peace treaty with Israel isn't going to create investment nor is the lack of one what is hindering it. Jordan has one of the longest and strongest peace treaties with Israel. They were right to do so, but it has not brought them great investment and they remain poor. Other countries that lack a peace treaty have far more foreign investment. It's clear from your comments here that you are grossly unfamiliar with middle east politics. Even entertaining discussion of a third temple would lead to riots in Israel/Palestine and other Arab countries. Building another temple where there is "enough room" would lead to massive destabilization and war.

Not only do the vast majority of people inside Israel and out believe that the most likely place for the temple was where the Dome of the Rock is currently located, but building another temple outside of it would be impossible. The "enough room" argument assumes that there would be an agreement with whatever location was chosen, which is ridiculous. No one would agree even among Jews.

Whatever Trump proposes will not be an honest attempt at a peaceful, just settlement to the crisis. It will be an attempt by the Trump admin, Israel, and Saudi Arabia to strongarm the Palestinians with the goal of re-orienting Middle East politics away from the Israel/Palestinian conflict and towards one opposing Iran. Applying maximalist pressure to neighboring Arab states to join their regional conflict against Iran has been one of the main focuses of Saudi foreign policy under MBS. So far, it has been a spectacular failure. It will fail in Israel and Palestine just as it has failed in Syria, Lebanon, Qatar, Jordan, and Yemen.

The Arabs in the Levant won't ever agree to it and those who think they will are practicing a foreign policy based on fantasy.

None of this even addresses the issues of a border, occupation, terror, Palestinian state viability, land disputes, water, right of return, Gaza, dozens of other historical and religious sites, settlements, or what to do with the millions of Palestinians living in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, and Jordan.

The Arabs aren't going to sell all of that away for a bag of silver.

The State of Israel is not biblical Israel. Your confusion for the two leads you to serious errors that if acted upon will result in senseless violence, destruction of holy sites, and decades of war.

Your insistence that the temple will be rebuilt soon is founded on your interpretation of the Bible shared by a minority of Christians and is in opposition to the realities on the ground. You cannot explain why now is the time for it to be rebuilt rather than in 1967 or 1948 or 100 years ago or 100 years from now or a 1000 for that matter.

Fanaticism like yours separated from reason and wise counsel from experts is the cause of much suffering in the region by those on all sides. I pray that the Trump administration listens to realists who care for the well-being of innocent people rather than a foreign policy of fantasy.