I said I'd start this thread in another one that was deleted so here it goes. I'm posting it here because it is more Philosophical and scientific than political.
Every human trait has a evolutionary reasoning behind it, otherwise it would mostly die off. So the question specifically here is does a certain trait that is found in every country, mostly in a group of men, have more genetic driving forces or is it something more from how they were raised.
That trait being authoritarianism or the desire to have a central authority that enforces strict morality upon the populace.
Obviously we see evolutionary forces at play in normal observed group behaviors at young ages, such a bullying and teasing, where a certain type of "normality" is enforced. This behavior can be observed from children with both very strict and very lenient parents. It is something inherent in many children and can be seen throughout the animal kingdom.
Is the authoritarian trait simply an extension of this? Are these people that have these desires simply an evolutionary tool that was used to keep tribes in check and prevent them from destruction within?
Or does the authoritarian adult come from environmental factors, whereby they were taught by authoritative parents to appreciate rule and order and severe consequences for being different or immoral? Or could it also be a result of a very laxed environment growing up and a resentment for lack of structure and authoritative control over their lives?
What complicates matters is that the same authoritarian sentiments can be shared by those on completely different sides of the political spectrum. We all know this from looking at that often used political leanings test results matrix that has 2 axis, one for economically right or left and the other for authoritarianism or libertarianism. This also applies to right and left morality ideals. So you can have both an authoritarian rightist who wants to enforce their own version of religious morality and an authoritarian leftist who wants to enforce acceptance of all types of behavior and cultures and punishment for those intolerant of other beliefs and behaviors.
The reason this complicates the question is because if indeed right wing authoritarianism is primarily driven by genetic evolutionary factors, then it would seem that it would focus on very evolutionary centric things. Sexual reproduction obviously is just about the most evolutionary centric you can get, so the authoritarian right would fit that mold since one of their most desired things to control with the government is sexual behavior, however where in the authoritarian left is the evolutionary centric factors?
So perhaps right wing authoritarianism is a genetically driven trait while left wing authoritarianism is not? Or is it more of an evolutional feminine trait that is being expressed through authoritarianism. That being a more nurturing, motherly type protection of those seen to be a part of your tribe.
Your thoughts?
Obviously I believe that both variances of this would be evolutionary vestigial behaviors that have lived past their use.
Every human trait has a evolutionary reasoning behind it, otherwise it would mostly die off. So the question specifically here is does a certain trait that is found in every country, mostly in a group of men, have more genetic driving forces or is it something more from how they were raised.
That trait being authoritarianism or the desire to have a central authority that enforces strict morality upon the populace.
Obviously we see evolutionary forces at play in normal observed group behaviors at young ages, such a bullying and teasing, where a certain type of "normality" is enforced. This behavior can be observed from children with both very strict and very lenient parents. It is something inherent in many children and can be seen throughout the animal kingdom.
Is the authoritarian trait simply an extension of this? Are these people that have these desires simply an evolutionary tool that was used to keep tribes in check and prevent them from destruction within?
Or does the authoritarian adult come from environmental factors, whereby they were taught by authoritative parents to appreciate rule and order and severe consequences for being different or immoral? Or could it also be a result of a very laxed environment growing up and a resentment for lack of structure and authoritative control over their lives?
What complicates matters is that the same authoritarian sentiments can be shared by those on completely different sides of the political spectrum. We all know this from looking at that often used political leanings test results matrix that has 2 axis, one for economically right or left and the other for authoritarianism or libertarianism. This also applies to right and left morality ideals. So you can have both an authoritarian rightist who wants to enforce their own version of religious morality and an authoritarian leftist who wants to enforce acceptance of all types of behavior and cultures and punishment for those intolerant of other beliefs and behaviors.
The reason this complicates the question is because if indeed right wing authoritarianism is primarily driven by genetic evolutionary factors, then it would seem that it would focus on very evolutionary centric things. Sexual reproduction obviously is just about the most evolutionary centric you can get, so the authoritarian right would fit that mold since one of their most desired things to control with the government is sexual behavior, however where in the authoritarian left is the evolutionary centric factors?
So perhaps right wing authoritarianism is a genetically driven trait while left wing authoritarianism is not? Or is it more of an evolutional feminine trait that is being expressed through authoritarianism. That being a more nurturing, motherly type protection of those seen to be a part of your tribe.
Your thoughts?
Obviously I believe that both variances of this would be evolutionary vestigial behaviors that have lived past their use.
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