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Some are, some aren't. Most I don't have any idea about because it's none of my (or your) business, so unlike you I'm not going to make up a percentage.

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I didn't make up a percentage.

Google it. Its understood for gay men (even married ones) to be as low as 65% and as high as 90%.

Read your own media - advocate etc. Its out there in the open.

You know I am telling the truth about it.

The estimate of 'open' marriages among heterosexuals is less than 1%. I can dig up that data soon but saw it recently.

And yes, adultery in hetero marriages is still adultery.

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Answer the question first, Win at Life.

Is adultery a sin?

You define adultery if you disagree with my definition and we'll go from there.

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Yes. Adultery is a sin. Now your turn.

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What I don't get is, isn't homosexuality already a sin? Two men doing it in their marriage is a sin. Two men doing it outside marriage is a sin. So you'd prefer them to sin a certain way? Besides, in your view, gays can't even be adulterous since they don't have valid marriages. Hence, this thread is really dumb.

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Stop sleeping around and be monogamous! No, not like that!

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What I don't get is, isn't homosexuality already a sin? Two men doing it in their marriage is a sin. Two men doing it outside marriage is a sin. So you'd prefer them to sin a certain way? Besides, in your view, gays can't even be adulterous since they don't have valid marriages. Hence, this thread is really dumb.

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I think the argument is that by being together, my husband and I are both committing adultery against the women we should've tricked into marrying us instead.

These are words spoken by The Son on the Sermon on the Mount:

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Matthew 5:43-48 New International Version (NIV)
Love for Enemies
43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

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The Son, the God of Grace and Mercy, wants all his followers who are hetero- to show Philios love to all those who are homo-.

The Son ate with robbers and thieves for crying out loud.

What that Philios love looks like? I dunno. That's at each and every follower's discretion to figure out for themselves.

I'm sure you all have heard I have a bisexual friend. We are good friends but we have recently been out of touch. I haven't spoken to him in a while. When I saw how he was leading a life of self-destruction, I had to start seeing him less. Plus, me being hetero-, I'm at the point where I need to be spending time with women friends.

All in all, let us followers of The Son, follow His example.

Exercise wisdom and gentleness too. Don't let them lead you astray.

So my bi- friend and I were visiting one of his friends over at his place one evening. We had just come from the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Tulsa. We gambled in moderation of course. I lost $20. A couple more friends arrived as well. About 8 - 10 people in all. We were all talking and mingling. One of them even inquired if I was new or on the cusp of getting into the "alternative" lifestyle. (I guess that's what they call it.) Then all of a sudden, I heard someone say loudly to another,

"He's not gay!"

Then he repeated himself twice, more softly, shaking his head.

(It got so quiet you could hear a pin drop.)

It was my bi- friend. He ratted me out amongst all the LGBTQ_____ folks present that I was hetero-!


I think someone hurried up and changed the subject.



It's surprising the things that can happen.


Sometimes the Lord just wants you to be a double agent. Embrace your inner double agent! The Lord can shine His light through you in some of the darkest places.

That's not what we call it.

We all have many Hetero friends.

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That's not what we call it.

We all have many Hetero friends.

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mind blown...

One thing I CAN say about my bi- friend is that it devastates him to spend a single cent at those casinos.

You won't get a gambling addiction around him.


A couple of highlights of the casinos are:

FREE SODA!

We both hate the cigarette stench though.



He has an incredible work ethic. He's a homeowner and owns 2 cars. One of them is Camaro. Great guy!

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Answer the question first, Win at Life.

Is adultery a sin?

You define adultery if you disagree with my definition and we'll go from there.

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Yes. Adultery is a sin. Now your turn.

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You started this thread with your definition of adultery. I'm just asking you to back that up with scripture. You won't because you can't. So, take the beam out of your eye before you try to take the splinter out of someone else's eye.

Win at Life,

Firstly, I have a life outside of TexAgs. So, before you spike the ball, just check yourself.

Not being able to respond to your request within several hours is no cause for you to perform a victory dance.

Secondly. You asked me two questions, both based on a premise that I reject.

The premise that I reject can be summarized by the Latin "sola scriptura" which means "scripture alone."

I don't accept that as a premise.

So, saying "give me a scripture that says specifically that XYZ and if you can't, I win" isn't a game I am going to play with you.

So whether or not scripture says, clearly enough to satisfy you, that sex between unmarried or unbetrothed persons is adultery matters not.

(Technically it might be better to say that sex between unmarried persons is fornication - and adultery requires at least one to be married. If that's your point then fine, the constraints of discussing such things on an Internet forum have another manifest example.)

Secondly, that scripture makes no mention of what "ceremony" or "specific professions" (like what, a magical formula?) are required for a marriage to be valid, makes no difference to me.

DP ^ reply above

https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

Note the fidelity rate.

Also, note the #of partners. Call that "fornication" if you want.

Is fornication still a sin?

OP, if your username is based off an Omega Seamaster that you don't have, I can't take you seriously.

"OP, if your username is based off an Omega Seamaster that you don't have, I can't take you seriously."

I know, right?

There isn't a whole lot of data yet.

https://www.brides.com/story/open-marriage-in-the-gay-community


But google it. It's pretty clear that open arrangements aren't uncommon.

Read the ten commandments refer to number six yes it is a sin