This post isn't about you or whether one should follow Torah. This is a discussion about what did Paul do per the epistles and Acts, so please keep it at that.
Did Paul keep the Torah after his vision? What verses form the basis for your opinion?
Of course not. He sinned like anyone else.Quote:
Did Paul keep the Torah?
Why? Because...Aggie4Life02 said:
Was any man called when he was already circumcised? He is not to become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called in uncircumcision? He is not to be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.
1 Corinthians 7:18-19 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/1co.7.18-19.NASB
Yes it does.agie95 said:
That is not what keeping Torah means.
Has there been a change in the priesthood? Yes or no?agie95 said:
If there is a change, the way you think it is then why are they serving in the 3rd Temple:
Ezekiel 44:15-16 - So the Levitical kohanim, the sons of Zadok who kept charge of My Sanctuary when Bnei-Yisrael wandered from Me, will draw near to Me to minister to Me. They will stand before Me to offer Me the fat and the blood"it is declaration of Adonai. 16 "They are ones who will enter My Sanctuary and draw near to My table to minister to Me. They will keep My charge.
I have tried to show that the common Christian understanding of Heb 7:12 is not correct, for as Ezekiel said, the Levitical Priesthood will be in service during the 3rd Temple.
If you want to discuss this verse, start a new thread. It has no bearing on whether or not Paul followed Torah.Martin Q. Blank said:Has there been a change in the priesthood? Yes or no?agie95 said:
If there is a change, the way you think it is then why are they serving in the 3rd Temple:
Ezekiel 44:15-16 - So the Levitical kohanim, the sons of Zadok who kept charge of My Sanctuary when Bnei-Yisrael wandered from Me, will draw near to Me to minister to Me. They will stand before Me to offer Me the fat and the blood"it is declaration of Adonai. 16 "They are ones who will enter My Sanctuary and draw near to My table to minister to Me. They will keep My charge.
I have tried to show that the common Christian understanding of Heb 7:12 is not correct, for as Ezekiel said, the Levitical Priesthood will be in service during the 3rd Temple.
Does that necessitate a change in the law? Yes or no?
It does because we disagree on what the law is. The priesthood has changed and the laws associated with the Levitical has passed away with it. Circumcision is no longer the sign. Baptism is. The passover meal is no longer the sign. The Lord's supper is.agie95 said:If you want to discuss this verse, start a new thread. It has no bearing on whether or not Paul followed Torah.Martin Q. Blank said:Has there been a change in the priesthood? Yes or no?agie95 said:
If there is a change, the way you think it is then why are they serving in the 3rd Temple:
Ezekiel 44:15-16 - So the Levitical kohanim, the sons of Zadok who kept charge of My Sanctuary when Bnei-Yisrael wandered from Me, will draw near to Me to minister to Me. They will stand before Me to offer Me the fat and the blood"it is declaration of Adonai. 16 "They are ones who will enter My Sanctuary and draw near to My table to minister to Me. They will keep My charge.
I have tried to show that the common Christian understanding of Heb 7:12 is not correct, for as Ezekiel said, the Levitical Priesthood will be in service during the 3rd Temple.
Does that necessitate a change in the law? Yes or no?
Must one be baptized to keep the Torah?agie95 said:
This does not have any bearing if Paul followed Torah....the Law of Moses. Paul was imprisoned prior to the writing of Hebrews and the destruction of the Temple. There is outside evidence of the disciples participating in sacrifices in the Temple their entire lives.
The Passover meal was never a sign to a covenant.
I will discuss the verse, just not on this thread.
Must one partake in the Lord's supper to keep the Torah? Did Paul, et. al. add to the law?agie95 said:
That is not a did Paul follow Torah discussion.
Disagree.agie95 said:
You know what it means. The Torah is in the first 5 books.
You can disagree all you want. You don't know what you are talking about. That is a quote from Isaiah. It is not a commandment. It is not a part of the Torah.Martin Q. Blank said:Disagree.agie95 said:
You know what it means. The Torah is in the first 5 books.
In the Law it is written, "By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord." 1 Cor. 14:21
Was that written in the first 5 books?
It says "In the Law it is written..." I suppose Paul thought Isaiah was part of the Law.agie95 said:You can disagree all you want. You don't know what you are talking about. That is a quote from Isaiah. It is not a commandment. It is not a part of the Torah.Martin Q. Blank said:Disagree.agie95 said:
You know what it means. The Torah is in the first 5 books.
In the Law it is written, "By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord." 1 Cor. 14:21
Was that written in the first 5 books?
What about the commandment to baptize?agie95 said:
Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Nomos is used in different ways. There are Jews today who call the Torah and the Prophets Torah. That doesn't mean that the Torah, the commandments, is added to by the prophets.
The 613 commandments are listed in Genesis - Deuteronomy.
Pro Sandy said:
Bad bull. This isn't the gen board
Feel better about what?agie95 said:
If it makes you feel any better, my mom died 12 years ago.