Pew Survey on Catholic/Protestant Relations

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Pew Survey

No doubt to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation, the Pew Research Center released a study on U.S. and European Catholic-Protestant relations. And I must say, this was a rare instance where I discovered a Pew religious survey without first being tipped off by the Catholic internet world. Perhaps the reason this flew under the radar is because of the predictable punchline: Catholic and Protestant acrimony is at an all-time low, with most Protestants and Catholics viewing each other as fellow Christian brothers and sisters. That's undoubtedly a great thing but is nothing new, as other surveys over the past decade gave us similar results. Yet, within the study were a few statistics that completely blew me away:
  • About half of U.S. Protestants
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Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.


Last I checked there is no singular Protestant position on anything.
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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.


Last I checked there is no singular Protestant position on anything.


...definitional to protestantism is the rejection of the Pope as head of the church.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.


Last I checked there is no singular Protestant position on anything.


...definitional to protestantism is the rejection of the Pope as head of the church.


Okay. I didn't think I needed to carve out an exemption for that. But okay. Now, what else?
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.


Last I checked there is no singular Protestant position on anything.


...definitional to protestantism is the rejection of the Pope as head of the church.
So we get to claim k2?
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If that's the best he can do, it leads to all sorts of weird new "Protestants."
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Shows that the vast majority of Catholics and Protestants are ignorant.

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.

There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.


Last I checked there is no singular Protestant position on anything.


...definitional to protestantism is the rejection of the Pope as head of the church.


Not so much that but papal infallibility, errancy of Scripture, and Mariology.
Sapper Redux
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Except many Protestants don't hold to scriptural inerrancy and have views of Mary that are quite similar to the Catholic Church.
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Sapper Redux
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Always liked this:

Aggie4Life02
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They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.
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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.


According to the Catholic Church that created the Nicene Creed...
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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.


According to the Catholic Church that created the Nicene Creed...


Catholic, not Roman. Also, historically, Protestants must hold to the 5 solas.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.


According to the Catholic Church that created the Nicene Creed...


Catholic, not Roman. Also, historically, Protestants must hold to the 5 solas.


Lol.

And no, not historically. Only in very particular branches.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.


According to the Catholic Church that created the Nicene Creed...


Catholic, not Roman. Also, historically, Protestants must hold to the 5 solas.
Crap. I'm 80% there.
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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

They also must hold to the Nicene Creed.


According to whom? You? Are you the arbiter of Protestantism? You're not offering any support or evidence, you're just stating a belief.


Well of course, but if one rejects the Nicene creed, then they aren't even Christian.


According to the Catholic Church that created the Nicene Creed...


Catholic, not Roman. Also, historically, Protestants must hold to the 5 solas.


Lol.

And no, not historically. Only in very particular branches.


If they don't hold to the 5 solas, they aren't protestant.
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If we aren't Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox, what do you consider us? Are anabaptists protestant?
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Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.
Ah okay. FYI, I wouldn't consider Baptists to be Anabaptists.
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RetiredAg said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.
Ah okay. FYI, I wouldn't consider Baptists to be Anabaptists.


Fair enough. Many consider credobaptists as anabaptists, even though modern day baptists don't trace their lineage through anabaptists.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.


So what are they?
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*feverishly starring Watson posts*

*is very confused*
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.
What is exactly is protestant doctrine?
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There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.

Maybe protestants could be unified themselves as a first measure?
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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.


So what are they?
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Catholic and Protestant acrimony is at an all-time low, with most Protestants and Catholics viewing each other as fellow Christian brothers and sisters.
great news! Thanks for sharing.
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Catholic and Protestant acrimony is at an all-time low, with most Protestants and Catholics viewing each other as fellow Christian brothers and sisters
Well, I can think of several posters that were clearly not part of this survey.
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k2, most Catholics, and ...?
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This is always an interesting subject.

A "Reformation" was certainly needed with the amount of corruption coming out of Rome.

On the flip side, I can't help but wonder with Martin Luther would think about the state of Christianity today and if he would do anything differently again if he could.

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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.


So what are they?


Heterodox?
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.


So what are they?


Heterodox?


They were born during the Protestant Reformation out of Protestant theology.
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k2aggie07 said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Catholic doctrine is anathema to Protestants.
Protestant doctrine is anathema to Catholics.
What is exactly is protestant doctrine?

5 solas

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There is no possibility of unity unless one side gives up their view of the Gospel.

Maybe protestants could be unified themselves as a first measure?

Depends on what you mean by unified. They are as unified as Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox are


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Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Dr. Watson said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Depends on the Anabaptist.

Most mainline Baptist Churches today are Protestant.

Amish and most Menonites are not.


So what are they?


Heterodox?


They were born during the Protestant Reformation out of Protestant theology.


There were a pretty huge rage of anabaptist views. Most reformers didn't classify them as orthodox.
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