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I am not aware of any who actually believe in a "young earth".

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Oh it's widespread in fundamentalist baptist world. We even did a school play all intended to "debunk" evolution and an old earth. The big song was "You Can't Make a Monkey Out of Me".

I think most Christians, however, don't really give young earth vs old earth much thought.

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I read retired's post as a long con aimed at this Simpsons reference. It never crossed my mind that he was talking about a relationship song sang by real kids in a real play at a real school.

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Oh it was a very real song in a very real play at a very real "school". I use quotations because it lacked any accreditation and whose science teachings sounded as though they came from Natural News, which made it quite the challenge transferring to a 5A public school in Austin when we moved back to Texas in 11th grade. We were lucky they accepted any of our credits, as they informed us they were considering not accepting them.

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100% human? They bred with Homo sapiens. They were not Homo sapiens. They were Homo neanderthalis. They were a species of hominid without being anatomically modern humans.

And they absolutely existed. That's an absurd statement.

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Remeber, I think the entire belief of ape to man evolution is an absurd statement. IMO whatever bones they found and are calling a Neanderthal is either 100 percent human as you and I or not. I think we often forget how diverse the human skeleton can be in size and shape. The two gentlemen below are both 100 percent human.

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100% human? They bred with Homo sapiens. They were not Homo sapiens. They were Homo neanderthalis. They were a species of hominid without being anatomically modern humans.

And they absolutely existed. That's an absurd statement.

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Remeber, I think the entire belief of ape to man evolution is an absurd statement. IMO whatever bones they found and are calling a Neanderthal is either 100 percent human as you and I or not. I think we often forget how diverse the human skeleton can be in size and shape. The two gentlemen below are both 100 percent human.

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I believe the "rickety Cossack" theory was tossed out awhile ago. Neanderthals are not Homo sapiens.

It's interesting how if you've already decided that something must be true to fit within your preferred narrative how easily your mind can adapt to fit new information within your existing paradigm.

The "it's just a different type of human" argument is so willfully ignorant. We have skeletons of an insane number of intermediate species with entirely different skeletal structures. Not just shorter or taller, but entirely differently shaped hips. Entirely different craniums.

You can go to museums and look at these skeletons. These were not just humans stunted by lack of nutrition or whatever. These are different species.

If your religious beliefs require that you believe this is all a giant conspiracy or lie, you really should reconsider your religious beliefs.

There are quite a few articles that challenge this view worth reading even though you may be set in your mind. I readily admit that I'm not a scientist but I find the observation below interesting. Maybe someone could educate me on it.

Science Mag

Average DNA divergence between Neandertals and humans. To estimate the DNA sequence divergence per base pair between the genomes of Neandertals and the reference human genome sequence, we generated three-way alignments between the Neandertal, human, and chimpanzee genomes, filtering out genomic regions that may be duplicated in either humans or chimpanzees and using an inferred genome sequence of the common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees as a reference o avoid potential biases

In order to avoid potential bias one uses a biased method?

There are many Christians who love Jesus that disagree with me, each other, and how to examine the evidence on this topic as many of you do. I'm simply sharing my view as requested. Below are some articles on the topic from Creationsists.

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