Duncan Idaho said:

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Sounds like "Unsere Mutter, unsere Vater"

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2008and1 said:

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Some old threads on the series:

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/2425670

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/2498839/1

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cbr said:

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Just found it on prime. Its a few years old but pretty damned good. Has 5 full stars fwiw.

It is in german though, so if you cant follow it you'll need subtitles, but its worth it. My childhood german got buried under a smattering of spanish, afrikaans, even mandarin, so it all became a jumble, but this is bringing it back for me a little.

Story of 5 childhood german friends, teens in 1940, and takes them through the war. Sort of a saving private ryan (the action sequences are actually that good and the style is clearly reminiscient) but from a german perspective.

Im only a few episodes in, but it is Fascinating in that so far it largely lacks all the tired nazi tropes, holocaust tropes, or even typical german self loathing beyond what has to exist on self reflection of the nazi era.

2 girls, 2 soldiers and a jewish friend.

Very good and very refreshing so far. Highly recommend.

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LMCane said:

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cbr said:

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Just found it on prime. Its a few years old but pretty damned good. Has 5 full stars fwiw.

It is in german though, so if you cant follow it you'll need subtitles, but its worth it. My childhood german got buried under a smattering of spanish, afrikaans, even mandarin, so it all became a jumble, but this is bringing it back for me a little.

Story of 5 childhood german friends, teens in 1940, and takes them through the war. Sort of a saving private ryan (the action sequences are actually that good and the style is clearly reminiscient) but from a german perspective.

Im only a few episodes in, but it is Fascinating in that so far it largely lacks all the tired nazi tropes, holocaust tropes, or even typical german self loathing beyond what has to exist on self reflection of the nazi era.

2 girls, 2 soldiers and a jewish friend.

Very good and very refreshing so far. Highly recommend.

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love this series

except the entire Jewish angle is about as Hollywood Berlin as is even possible.

how do I put on the spoiler blackout?

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cbr said:

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LMCane said:

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cbr said:

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Just found it on prime. Its a few years old but pretty damned good. Has 5 full stars fwiw.

It is in german though, so if you cant follow it you'll need subtitles, but its worth it. My childhood german got buried under a smattering of spanish, afrikaans, even mandarin, so it all became a jumble, but this is bringing it back for me a little.

Story of 5 childhood german friends, teens in 1940, and takes them through the war. Sort of a saving private ryan (the action sequences are actually that good and the style is clearly reminiscient) but from a german perspective.

Im only a few episodes in, but it is Fascinating in that so far it largely lacks all the tired nazi tropes, holocaust tropes, or even typical german self loathing beyond what has to exist on self reflection of the nazi era.

2 girls, 2 soldiers and a jewish friend.

Very good and very refreshing so far. Highly recommend.

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love this series

except the entire Jewish angle is about as Hollywood Berlin as is even possible.

how do I put on the spoiler blackout?

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i just looked it up - content


so how is the jewish angle hollywood berlin at all? i thought it was way outside the usual tropes?

the jewish kid grew up with nonjewish friends and a loyal jewish german father. the nonjewish friend risked her life to get him out, but he didnt make it and she was killed for it. He escaped the train and found that the polish and russians hated jews just as much as the germans did. he walked the tightrope and lived through it when the one that always hated the nazis and the war, and the girl who risked her life to save him didn't. none of that screams typical hollywood holocaust movies to me

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LMCane said:

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cbr said:

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LMCane said:

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cbr said:

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Just found it on prime. Its a few years old but pretty damned good. Has 5 full stars fwiw.

It is in german though, so if you cant follow it you'll need subtitles, but its worth it. My childhood german got buried under a smattering of spanish, afrikaans, even mandarin, so it all became a jumble, but this is bringing it back for me a little.

Story of 5 childhood german friends, teens in 1940, and takes them through the war. Sort of a saving private ryan (the action sequences are actually that good and the style is clearly reminiscient) but from a german perspective.

Im only a few episodes in, but it is Fascinating in that so far it largely lacks all the tired nazi tropes, holocaust tropes, or even typical german self loathing beyond what has to exist on self reflection of the nazi era.

2 girls, 2 soldiers and a jewish friend.

Very good and very refreshing so far. Highly recommend.

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love this series

except the entire Jewish angle is about as Hollywood Berlin as is even possible.

how do I put on the spoiler blackout?

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i just looked it up - content


so how is the jewish angle hollywood berlin at all? i thought it was way outside the usual tropes?

the jewish kid grew up with nonjewish friends and a loyal jewish german father. the nonjewish friend risked her life to get him out, but he didnt make it and she was killed for it. He escaped the train and found that the polish and russians hated jews just as much as the germans did. he walked the tightrope and lived through it when the one that always hated the nazis and the war, and the girl who risked her life to save him didn't. none of that screams typical hollywood holocaust movies to me

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lol I see what you put the spoiler on but it doesn't have the directions for me to learn how to use it

so SPOILER ALERT

1. the fact that there were Jews in Berlin who had friends who were Aryans was a VERY small minority by 1940 as portrayed here. particularly for German officers in the Wehrmacht.

2. the odds of the one hero Jew to be able to jump from a train on it's way to Auschwitz and survive would have been 0.5%

3. the odds of the hero not only being able to jump from a train, but join the partisans and not be killed by the Germans or the Poles would have been 0.5%

4. the odds of such a guy coming back to Berlin after the end of the war would have been 0.5%

in reality, guy would have been worked to death in a concentration camp after starving and standing out in the snow with no clothes for weeks on end.

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Claude! said:

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Directions for blacking out spoilers are in the stickied thread on this forum.

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