Why Can't Hollywood Leave a Perfectly Good Movie Alone?

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10:19p, 5/10/22
AG
I just saw a trailer for the HBO Max remake of the 90s "Father of the Bride." First, that was already a remake of the great Spencer Tracey and Elizabeth Taylor hit. Second, it was one of the rare remakes that was even better than the original (to me, at least). Steve Martin was so great in it.

As usual, they have to put the twists on the previous one for the modern times. The parents live in Miami and their marriage is falling apart. The Banks are played by Andy Garcia and Gloria Estefan ( of "Conga" fame). The odds of it being a good movie again don't look too high.

Is there no movie safe from the remake/reboot bug?
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10:25p, 5/10/22
AG
Yeah that's a big **** no. Nothing is sacred except the almighty dollar and The Current Thing. Welcome to 'merica!
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In reply to 85aggie777 • 10:27p, 5/10/22
AG
Sucks, because all previous versions of the movie are erased from existence whenever a remake is made. That, and no one is allowed to enjoy the older versions anymore, while everyone is actively forced by law to watch the new one.

Raw deal all around.
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10:27p, 5/10/22
I saw that and thought the same thing.

I think that also means I'm old as *****
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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10:43p, 5/10/22
AG
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
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10:57p, 5/10/22
Padre de la Novia,
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:07p, 5/10/22
AG
TCTTS said:
Sucks, because all previous versions of the movie are erased from existence whenever a remake is made. That, and no one is allowed to enjoy the older versions anymore, while everyone is actively forced by law to watch the new one.

Raw deal all around.
Haha, okay, sarcasm noted!

But, the reboots can kind of ruin the joy of the original. For me, I really loved "Sex in the City." The series and the movies all ended on a high note with the main characters in a good place. I was very disappointed with how its reboot of "And Just Like That" basically blew up that happily ever after feeling, not to mention that they thought it could be a good show without Samantha. I wish now they didn't even go there.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:09p, 5/10/22
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
agreed.

but you left off avatar as it is a remake as well.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:14p, 5/10/22
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers
The Thing
Ocean's Eleven
3:10 To Yuma
True Grit
A Star Is Born (more than once)
The Italian Job
etc
etc
etc. . .
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In reply to jkag89 • 11:24p, 5/10/22
AG
Ocean's 11 is a top 5 most rewatchable movie.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:10a, 5/11/22
AG
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ocean's 11 is a top 5 most rewatchable movie.
Well, yeah.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:14a, 5/11/22
AG
TCTTS said:
Sucks, because all previous versions of the movie are erased from existence whenever a remake is made. That, and no one is allowed to enjoy the older versions anymore, while everyone is actively forced by law to watch the new one.

Raw deal all around.
Well, in theory the money going toward this could go to a better movie
But we all know it would just go to another boring remake anyways.

If people want to stop seeing ****ty remakes, stop going to them. Go see movies that are original concepts. Production companies are in it to make a profit. They dont really care about making 'art'
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In reply to PatAg • 12:19a, 5/11/22
AG
The majority of the money will always go to whatever the current executives at any given studio think is the safest bet, in order to preserve their jobs. Hollywood is all about self-preservation. And remakes are a spineless, "safe" bet because they're "name brands" that often come with built-in audiences/lesser blame if they fail.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 7:14a, 5/11/22
AG
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
you kinda just blew my mind as I only knew a few of these were remakes….

Definitely had no idea on these two….
Casino Royale?
The Birdcage? (My favorite Robin Williams movie)
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7:21a, 5/11/22
AG
True Lies is remake? Was the other one any good?
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7:24a, 5/11/22
AG
I mean, Father of the Bride itself was a remake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_the_Bride_(1991_film)

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Father of the Bride is a 1991 American romantic comedy film starring Steve Martin, Diane Keaton, Kimberly Williams (in her film debut), George Newbern, Martin Short, B. D. Wong, and Kieran Culkin. It is a remake of the 1950 film of the same name. Martin portrays George Banks, a businessman and owner of an athletic shoe company (called Side Kicks), who, when he finds out his daughter is getting married, panics.
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In reply to jokershady • 7:25a, 5/11/22
AG
jokershady said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
you kinda just blew my mind as I only knew a few of these were remakes….

Definitely had no idea on these two….
Casino Royale?
The Birdcage? (My favorite Robin Williams movie)
You'd be surprised how many are (or at least based off the same original work). Hell, both Wizard of Oz and Ben Hur had silent versions before the more famous ones were released.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_film_remakes
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8:24a, 5/11/22
AG
Isn't it interesting that so many movies are remakes and that most generations don't know because there are so many films made each year.
Another example, I had no idea A Star is Born was a remake.
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In reply to jokershady • 8:47a, 5/11/22
AG
jokershady said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Scarface
The Departed
Cape Fear
Vanilla Sky
12 Monkeys
Heat
Casino Royale
Dune
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy
The Birdcage
Scent of a Woman
True Lies

All shouldn't have been made.
you kinda just blew my mind as I only knew a few of these were remakes….

Definitely had no idea on these two….
Casino Royale?
The Birdcage? (My favorite Robin Williams movie)
The Birdcage was a remake of La Cage aux Falles which was itself originally a play, then a movie, then a musical before The Birdcage
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9:00a, 5/11/22
AG
I had no idea Brewster's Millions had so many remakes
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In reply to bluefire579 • 9:01a, 5/11/22
AG
bluefire579 said:
I mean, Father of the Bride itself was a remake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_the_Bride_(1991_film)

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Father of the Bride is a 1991 American romantic comedy film starring Steve Martin, Diane Keaton, Kimberly Williams (in her film debut), George Newbern, Martin Short, B. D. Wong, and Kieran Culkin. It is a remake of the 1950 film of the same name. Martin portrays George Banks, a businessman and owner of an athletic shoe company (called Side Kicks), who, when he finds out his daughter is getting married, panics.
I mean, that's exactly what the OP states
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In reply to bluefire579 • 9:03a, 5/11/22
AG
bluefire579 said:
I mean, Father of the Bride itself was a remake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_the_Bride_(1991_film)

Quote:
Father of the Bride is a 1991 American romantic comedy film starring Steve Martin, Diane Keaton, Kimberly Williams (in her film debut), George Newbern, Martin Short, B. D. Wong, and Kieran Culkin. It is a remake of the 1950 film of the same name. Martin portrays George Banks, a businessman and owner of an athletic shoe company (called Side Kicks), who, when he finds out his daughter is getting married, panics.

I was going to argue "but yeah they waited 40 years after the original to make it"! Then I realized it's been over 30 years since Steve Martin's version. And now I feel old.

However, it feels like it could have come out last year and not feel dated. Doubt you would say that about the 50s version in 1991. Remakes should not be made for originals that still seem modern/relevant. Or maybe I just view the world like its still the 90s, I dunno.
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In reply to Btron • 9:08a, 5/11/22
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Btron said:
Isn't it interesting that so many movies are remakes and that most generations don't know because there are so many films made each year.
Another example, I had no idea A Star is Born was a remake.


It's been remade twice now.
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9:11a, 5/11/22
AG
The real mistake is not casting someone on the level of Steve Martin. Andy Garcia I don't see having the comedic chops for the role, even though I like him ok as an actor.
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In reply to An L of an Ag • 9:20a, 5/11/22
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An L of an Ag said:
Btron said:
Isn't it interesting that so many movies are remakes and that most generations don't know because there are so many films made each year.
Another example, I had no idea A Star is Born was a remake.


It's been remade twice now.


Four times actually. And that's not counting remakes in spirit like "Up Close and Personal".
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In reply to agdoc2001 • 9:22a, 5/11/22
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agdoc2001 said:
bluefire579 said:
I mean, Father of the Bride itself was a remake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_the_Bride_(1991_film)

Quote:
Father of the Bride is a 1991 American romantic comedy film starring Steve Martin, Diane Keaton, Kimberly Williams (in her film debut), George Newbern, Martin Short, B. D. Wong, and Kieran Culkin. It is a remake of the 1950 film of the same name. Martin portrays George Banks, a businessman and owner of an athletic shoe company (called Side Kicks), who, when he finds out his daughter is getting married, panics.
I mean, that's exactly what the OP states
You're right, I completely glossed over that
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In reply to An L of an Ag • 9:25a, 5/11/22
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An L of an Ag said:
Btron said:
Isn't it interesting that so many movies are remakes and that most generations don't know because there are so many films made each year.
Another example, I had no idea A Star is Born was a remake.


It's been remade twice now.
3 times, actually. Original in 1937, Judy Garland in 1958, Barbara Sterisand in 1976, and Lady Gaga in 2018
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9:38a, 5/11/22
AG
It looks like a fun movie and a good role for Andy Garcia (I will always see some of Terry Benedict from Oceans). Sure, it's a 'wedding' movie, but it has a unique twist.

But call it something different. Don't just copy the name 'Father of The Bride'.
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In reply to nai06 • 9:43a, 5/11/22
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nai06 said:
I had no idea Brewster's Millions had so many remakes


I still want my Danny McBride and Craig Robinson version of Brewsters Millions set in the Kenny Powers universe. Make it happen, Hollywood.
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9:46a, 5/11/22
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My kids wanted to watch some newer movie on Disney+ called Cheaper by the Dozen which is an ultra woke remake of a remake, I think.

It has to be the worst remake ever made.
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9:52a, 5/11/22
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Good luck trying to come close to the feel good charm on Steve Martin's version. My wife and I will watch that ever once in a while when we need a feel good movie. Its fantastic and probably my favorite Steve Martin movie.

One of my favorite scenes will always be removing the "superfluous buns."
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9:57a, 5/11/22
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We need to organize a committee that targets all the crappy versions of movies for Hollywood to remake. Movies that should have been good, but weren't. Let's at least put the remake philosophy to work.
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In reply to bluefire579 • 9:57a, 5/11/22
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That's right! Forgot about the 1937 one.
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In reply to JDUB08AG • 10:08a, 5/11/22
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JDUB08AG said:
Good luck trying to come close to the feel good charm on Steve Martin's version. My wife and I will watch that ever once in a while when we need a feel good movie. Its fantastic and probably my favorite Steve Martin movie.

One of my favorite scenes will always be removing the "superfluous buns."
That's the thing, it's a different movie. The tension between the mom and dad makes it pretty different from the original on its own. Just because it's a 'dad gives away daughter' wedding movie doesn't make it like Father of the Bride. So give the movie its own identity. But 'Father of the Bride' gets more attention. Oh well.
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aTmAg said:
True Lies is remake? Was the other one any good?


It was a French movie. Never seen it. Same for the Birdcage.

I did recently see the original Spanish movie Vanilla Sky was based on, and while the story is great, just wasn't the same without Crowe's soundtrack and cinematography.
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