New Joker!
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Last: 2 yr ago by Duncan Idaho
I...
Dunno.
Was expecting more of a Heath Ledger vibe.
Dunno.
Was expecting more of a Heath Ledger vibe.
Is this a screen test or the final look
bigcat22 said:
Is this a screen test or the final look
I think this will be an early version of his makeup and he'll become something more sinister looking later in the movie, kinda like Peter Parker's Spider-Man sweat pants costume he had on when he was fighting Macho Man.
Sure hope so. Looks cartoony.
I have really mixed feelings about this. Like, it will be great or disastrous, but nothing in between.
Poor ol dc.
I went from six to midnight the first time I heard ledgers people will die audio tease.
Now I'm just puzzled
I went from six to midnight the first time I heard ledgers people will die audio tease.
Now I'm just puzzled
Phoenix is a really good actor so I think it has a very good chance of being great.ChiliBeans said:
I have really mixed feelings about this. Like, it will be great or disastrous, but nothing in between.
I could be wrong, but there's something about this film that's intriguing. Joaquin Phoenix has turned down several Comic Book films before, and he picked this one. I've got to think there's more going on under the hood here than many think for him to sign on.
The Joker should not have an origin story.
That looks like a drunk clown that got into a fight at a bar.
That has to be the "First time being the Joker" makeup.
I'm sure it will change as his character gets older in the film.
I'm sure it will change as his character gets older in the film.
Reminds me of Bill Murray in Quick Change
mazag08 said:
I...
Dunno.
Was expecting more of a Heath Ledger vibe.
They need to do something traditional but still as far removed from Ledger as possible. All due respect for him but the role has been poisoned because he's been overly immortalized.
Silky Johnston said:
The Joker should not have an origin story.
The Killing Joke is one of the best comic one shots ever.
Nice reference.
Glad i'm not the only one. Everyone of Reddit is raving about how great it looks. But I just really don't know what to think...shaynew1 said:
Now I'm just puzzled
1. Yes Killing Joke is great.
2. This looks like crap.
3. That said, this origin story could be him as a mischievous/capricious Joker prior to his first encounter with Batman, at which point he would later become homicidal scarred Joker.
2. This looks like crap.
3. That said, this origin story could be him as a mischievous/capricious Joker prior to his first encounter with Batman, at which point he would later become homicidal scarred Joker.
Leaked origin story clip.
OK I like both of these.
Nothing about this looks good.
SeattleAgJr said:
OK I like both of these.
Very John Gacy. I like it, creepy.
DC needs to figure out that less is more here.
MUCH better.
I'm a firm believer DC needs to utilize the rest of Batman's rogue gallery, and retire The Joker from movies for about 15 years. Heath Ledger ruined the role for others. Batman has so many other great villains, I don't understand why DC doesn't try to utilize them. It could really differentiate them from Marvel, too. Marvel hasn't really had great villains.
I often hear the refrain of DC needing to use more of the rogue gallery around Batman but who do y'all like there?
I guess Ive always thought it was really weak granted I haven't read as much Batman as I'm sure the folks saying that have. I always thought the Penguin, Riddler, and Scarecrow were punching bag level villians.
I assume y'all are talking about ones that arrived on the scene after these more "classic" villians. Killer Croc would take it up a notch and actually introduce a meta-human against him. Who else?
I guess Ive always thought it was really weak granted I haven't read as much Batman as I'm sure the folks saying that have. I always thought the Penguin, Riddler, and Scarecrow were punching bag level villians.
I assume y'all are talking about ones that arrived on the scene after these more "classic" villians. Killer Croc would take it up a notch and actually introduce a meta-human against him. Who else?
There aren't that many great characters to use. The Joker if one of the few interesting comic book villains.AustinAg2K said:
I'm a firm believer DC needs to utilize the rest of Batman's rogue gallery, and retire The Joker from movies for about 15 years. Heath Ledger ruined the role for others. Batman has so many other great villains, I don't understand why DC doesn't try to utilize them. It could really differentiate them from Marvel, too. Marvel hasn't really had great villains.
I would say Clayface, but I think that Sandman's turn in Spider-Man 3 probably ruined shapeshifter for awhile.
They are going to **** this up, aren't they?
Not DCEU, so probably not
If you highlight the detective side of Batman, then I think it makes The Penguin and The Riddler much stronger villians. Show The Penguin as the boss at the head of Gotham's crime syndicate, and make the movie more of mafia movie. Don't make him an actual Penguin, or give him a Penguin army. Play him like a mob boss. For The Riddler, I think you could have some great scenes where Batman has to work his way through a guantlet of death traps. Don't just make The Riddler a comic vehicle. Play on his intelligence. You could make a decent horror movie with The Scarecrow as your lead villian.
If you're just going to have Batman punch his way through everything, then it limits your ability to have interesting stories with his villians. However, if you tailor the movie more to the villians style, it would give you a Batman movie that hasn't been done before.
If you're just going to have Batman punch his way through everything, then it limits your ability to have interesting stories with his villians. However, if you tailor the movie more to the villians style, it would give you a Batman movie that hasn't been done before.
Joker does seem like the villain that strikes as the most "possibly realistic". Penguin to me is so outlandish as a villain I've always had a hard time taking the role or movie seriously.
I'm also a fan of the idea of making the whole Batman a more realistic concept in itself. (Although he already more realistic than other DC super heroes) . In this aspect I'd maybe like to see it go outside the box more with a more detective type approach (as mentioned before by others on the board). Maybe the villain should be a serial killer taking Gotham by storm and Batman needed to solve that and apprehend him. Maybe DC doesn't need to rely on old reliables from the comics.
I'm also a fan of the idea of making the whole Batman a more realistic concept in itself. (Although he already more realistic than other DC super heroes) . In this aspect I'd maybe like to see it go outside the box more with a more detective type approach (as mentioned before by others on the board). Maybe the villain should be a serial killer taking Gotham by storm and Batman needed to solve that and apprehend him. Maybe DC doesn't need to rely on old reliables from the comics.
Just to be clear, I do think the Joker is the best villian in all of comics. I just feel like for movies, he's been done. At this time, I'm not sure what else can be added/ improved on. I'd be fine with them introducing a new villian, too. Just get away from the Joker for a while and let the world grow.
That's something the movies haven't done particularly well, imo. They focus so much on the violence and brooding that they gloss over some of the investigative aspects of the character. He could be an American James Bond; he doesn't have to always be moody and withdrawn, or putting on a silly drunk act for the public.Quote:
If you highlight the detective side of Batman,
But it takes a different kind of writer to produce a good story about the infiltration/takedown of a crime ring rather than an emotional one on one fight.
"Not sure if you made it loud enough sir!"
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