*** STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER ***

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In reply to TCTTS • 7:29p, 5/26/19
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My rake is she looks like she is wearing super white clothes heading to the Death Star while they are more soiled in the desert. So I'd assume clean comes before dirty.

Another thing I have been wondering though is if the battle scene we see is the end of Ren, why is there footage of his helmet being repaired in the trailer?
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In reply to TCTTS • 7:31p, 5/26/19
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yeah but it wasn't what redline said he just said opened.

look...i'm a very literal person. sorry. it's all good though. i figured i was just being that guy.
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8:02p, 5/26/19
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I knew someone would say it actually opened in space.
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8:04p, 5/26/19
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And to be fair, Star Wars was in space for a good while. TFA went almost immediately to Jakku
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11:58p, 5/26/19
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:48a, 5/27/19
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It would be a first, but I can see it opening with a flashback to the original battle of jakku, a reminder of how large the fleets and forces used to be, and then the rest of the movie playing out on a smaller scale in the wreckage of the galaxy that once was without massive battles and ending in a duel between Kylo and Rey while the others have some sort of small but critically important skirmish elsewhere.
Thanks and gig'em
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 10:34a, 5/27/19
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
I know I've made a similar post before, but if JJ manages to unite everyone for this movie (old fans, prequel-era fans, and the new generation), it would be a slam dunk / home run that would be worthy of a lot of praise.

I really hope he can do that. (Or come close.)

I also think if they really dial into that with the marketing, and play up the "finale" factor, this could be huge. Maybe not TFA huge, but at least comparable.
Star wars is a very simple formula.

Simple story
Relatable heroes and scary villains
Cool scenes pulled from movie history and reshot in space (sword fights, westerns, dogfights, etc)
Great visuals and audio stimulation

All you have to do is not actively attack it and **** it up

The prequels got a little too cute and cartoony
TLJ actively attempted to such and piss people off for some reason
If they just ignore tlj and get back to the formula it will be entertaining.
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12:52p, 5/27/19
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It's too bad they're going to raise Carrie Fisher from the dead; my intro would have been awesome:

Essentially: Open with the Millenium Falcon landing on a large asteroid where Chewie, Rey, Poe, Finn, and Billie Lourd entomb Leia on the remains of her home ex-planet of Alderaan with some nice words and a Royal Mausoleum.

They could have even worked in a later visit from Ben Skywalker that tied into the plot and his struggle with the light...
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 1:54p, 5/27/19
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Aggie_Journalist said:
It would be a first, but I can see it opening with a flashback to the original battle of jakku, a reminder of how large the fleets and forces used to be, and then the rest of the movie playing out on a smaller scale in the wreckage of the galaxy that once was without massive battles and ending in a duel between Kylo and Rey while the others have some sort of small but critically important skirmish elsewhere.


If the flashback involved Luke pulling a Star Destroyer out of the sky with the force, JJ would save the whole SW universe right there.
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2:40p, 5/27/19
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I've been wanting to see the battle of Jakku since we first saw that fallen Star Destroyer in the very first TFA teaser.
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 3:27p, 5/27/19
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I would be surprised if they broke tradition here and opened with a flashback (if only because I don't know how they'd have an opening crawl catching the audience up on the events between movies, but then pan from the crawl to a flashback), but it DOES sound like we're getting quite a bit of backstory filled in, one way or another. There's the the rumored scene between a de-aged Luke and Leia, post-Return of the Jedi, and then the Vanity Fair piece mentions that we're going to learn more about the "origins" of the First Order, in which Abrams says, "It was almost like if the Argentine Nazis had sort of got together and actually started to bring that back in some real form." The fact that Abrams is getting that detailed with his analogy tells me we MIGHT actually be seeing something in that regard rather than just hearing about it from some character. And if we DO get some kind of flashback to the First Order's origins, I can't think of a better place to start than the Battle of Jakku.
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:30p, 5/27/19
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Also, just typing those words tells me there HAS to be some connection between the Battle of Jakku and Rey. There's just no way there was some huge, Empire-ending battle above/on Jakku, and then a few years later the savior of the galaxy just randomly happens shows up on the EXACT same planet, in the EXACT same area the battle took place. There's no way that's coincidence.
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3:47p, 5/27/19
Rey will fulfill the prophecy. Mark it down.
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In reply to TCTTS • 5:14p, 5/27/19
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Flashback is the Imperial Fleet getting whipped in the skies above Jakku. Slowly descends to the ground surface to some base under assault. ATAT's going down left and right. Inside the base two Imperial Officers are arguing loudly as all chaos is breaking loose. Similar to Hoth except the Empire is on the receiving end.

Officer 1 (yelling at subordinates): sound the alarm for final stage of retreat and evacuation...

Officer 2: On who's authority? Emperor Palpatine's orders were clear, we hold this facility to the last trooper!

Officer 1: Palpatine is dead! Lord Vader is dead! We've lost. You can die here or be tried for war crimes. I'm ordering my men to retreat.

Officer 1 and several others subordinates leave the area walking quickly down a corridor. Officer 1 looks at his subordinate and says "My orders were also from Palpatine himself, and didn't include dying on this wretched planet.

The officers reach a checkpoint manned by the same kind of black armored Troopers that Krenick used in Rogue One. They clear them through the blast doors and they step out in to a massive warehouse type bunker, troopers and officers hurriedly loading containers in to several smaller transport ships.

Subordinate (gasping): Sir, what is this place?

Officer 1: This? 25 years of conquest. The plunder of 100's of systems. Spice, credits, precious metals, kyber crystals, artifacts, art, research, assets created from the most secretive programs commissioned by Palpatine. All here. The means to re-build the Empire if it ever were to fall.

Scene cuts with the transports blasting out and jumping to light speed immediately. As the base begins to collapse, we see a very young Rey in a suspended state in some sort of life pod looking thing in a facility where it becomes obvious cloning was taking place.


eh?



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In reply to TCTTS • 5:17p, 5/27/19
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TCTTS said:
Also, just typing those words tells me there HAS to be some connection between the Battle of Jakku and Rey. There's just no way there was some huge, Empire-ending battle above/on Jakku, and then a few years later the savior of the galaxy just randomly happens shows up on the EXACT same planet, in the EXACT same area the battle took place. There's no way that's coincidence.
In order to not completely eye roll at TFA you had to be able to buy in to a lot of coincidences. Rey at the exact spot the Battle of Jaku occurred. Finn crash landing at that exact spot. The old guy in desert within a few miles of Rey. BB8 making it to Rey. The Falcon there at the same place. Finn, Rey, and BB8 taking off on the Falcon and being found so quickly by Han.

At least this storyline would wipe out a few of those miraculous coincidences.
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6:09p, 5/27/19
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Not to derail the conversation at hand, but should the thread title be updated to reflect The Rise of Skywalker?
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In reply to TCTTS • 6:13p, 5/27/19
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My thoughts exactly.

Also, I feel JJ is the type to lean toward emphasizing early acts of a movie in trailers and keeping the later acts as hidden as possible. The opening scrawl could describe how both sides are searching jakku for something important, then flash text to make it clear we're seeing the past, open with the battle, see the star destroyers crashing to the planet's surface, then fade to modern jakku and show the team searching the area. Everything we've seen of jakku in the trailer would be the opening act (Rey v tie fighter, the flying stormtrooper chase), etc. Kylo would obtain whatever they're racing after in Jakku first and the good guys would feel hosed, so they'd regroup with leia in despair at which point Leia would somehow figure out they have to go to the Death Star ruins, then you get the Death Star ruins as the second act with a Rey Kylo fight. There both sides get a clue pointing them to the third and final act in a yet-to-be-seen location that JJ has been keeping hidden from us. Maybe the heroes are even captured at the Death Star and taken to the final act's location as prisoners (kind of like Indiana Jones & co at the end of last crusade).
Thanks and gig'em
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 6:21p, 5/27/19
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Everyone flag this post. That usually does the trick.

Staff, can we get the thread title changed to...

*** STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER ***

Thanks!
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In reply to TCTTS • 6:23p, 5/27/19
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TCTTS said:
Everyone flag this post. That usually does the trick.

Staff, can we get the thread title changed to...

*** STAR WARS: Episode IX: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER ***

FIFY
Thanks!
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 6:33p, 5/27/19
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Aggie_Journalist said:
My thoughts exactly.

Also, I feel JJ is the type to lean toward emphasizing early acts of a movie in trailers and keeping the later acts as hidden as possible. The opening scrawl could describe how both sides are searching jakku for something important, then flash text to make it clear we're seeing the past, open with the battle, see the star destroyers crashing to the planet's surface, then fade to modern jakku and show the team searching the area. Everything we've seen of jakku in the trailer would be the opening act (Rey v tie fighter, the flying stormtrooper chase), etc. Kylo would obtain whatever they're racing after in Jakku first and the good guys would feel hosed, so they'd regroup with leia in despair at which point Leia would somehow figure out they have to go to the Death Star ruins, then you get the Death Star ruins as the second act with a Rey Kylo fight. There both sides get a clue pointing them to the third and final act in a yet-to-be-seen location that JJ has been keeping hidden from us. Maybe the heroes are even captured at the Death Star and taken to the final act's location as prisoners (kind of like Indiana Jones & co at the end of last crusade).

Yeah, but that's not Jakku in the trailer. The recent Vanity Fair piece confirmed it's yet another desert planet called Pasaana, "home to the Aki-Aki species." They shot all the Pasaana footage in Jordan, at the same location as Lawrence of Arabia. Jakku was shot in the Rub al Khali desert near Abu Dhabi, while Tatooine was shot in Tunisia. Three different desert locations for three different desert planets.

Also, it would be way too confusing to have the opening crawl for Episode IX, catching us up on the events since Episode VIII, and then immediately after that, flash MORE text on the screen that would essentially amount to "BUT FIRST, 30 years ago..." That's way too clunky, and I will bet you any amount of money they don't do that.

Trust me, I think it'd be cool as hell to start the movie with the Battle of Jakku, and wish they would. But they're not going to break Star Wars tradition in the final movie and screw with a long-established pattern at this point.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 6:34p, 5/27/19
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That's not the official title. They dropped episode numbers with The Force Awakens. In fact, the prequels are the only movies that officially have episode numbers in their titles. Besides, everyone and their dog knows this is Episode IX.
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9:37p, 5/27/19
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May the force be with staff.
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9:38p, 5/27/19
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Thanks, staff!
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9:44p, 5/27/19
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Ha!! People want Ep IX removed yet some still insist on calling the original Star Wars movie Ep. IV A New Hope

Never. It was Star Wars when I saw it in theaters and it's always Star Wars.


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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 9:51p, 5/27/19
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Zombie Jon Snow said:
Ha!! People want Ep IX removed yet some still insist on calling the original Star Wars movie Ep. IV A New Hope

Never. It was Star Wars when I saw it in theaters and it's always Star Wars.


While I agree, it is Star Wars, but did you see it during any of its re-releases? 1978 or 1979? I believe the episode IV A New Hope was added then.
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In reply to TCTTS • 10:06p, 5/27/19
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TCTTS said:
Also, just typing those words tells me there HAS to be some connection between the Battle of Jakku and Rey. There's just no way there was some huge, Empire-ending battle above/on Jakku, and then a few years later the savior of the galaxy just randomly happens shows up on the EXACT same planet, in the EXACT same area the battle took place. There's no way that's coincidence.


The rebels win the battle of Jakku. Han and Luke get toasted during the afterparty and have sex with some rando junkie scavenger chicks. They leave the planet and never speak of it again. Rey and Kylo end up being born later and moms somehow track down Han who then has to admit to Leia he cheated. Leia agrees to raise Kylo with Han, but Luke is off somewhere and they decide to not tell him about his daughter Rey. Scavenger chicks end up winning the Jakku lottery and getting all expense trip to casino planet leaving Rey behind on Jakku. Leia never lets Han live it down and it ends up splitting them apart when teen Kylo goes cray cray at Luke's academy.
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In reply to mazag08 • 10:13p, 5/27/19
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Rey and Kylo born out of an orgy isn't half bad.
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In reply to TCTTS • 10:15p, 5/27/19
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TCTTS said:
Rey and Kylo born out of an orgy isn't half bad.


You want your flashback.. how about start the movie with an orgy scene between Han, Luke, Lando, Ackbar, an Ewok, R2, and a bunch of ratchet Jakku chicks.

The Rise of Skywalker has a new meaning.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 10:17p, 5/27/19
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Zombie Jon Snow said:
Ha!! People want Ep IX removed yet some still insist on calling the original Star Wars movie Ep. IV A New Hope

Never. It was Star Wars when I saw it in theaters and it's always Star Wars.


While I agree, it is Star Wars, but did you see it during any of its re-releases? 1978 or 1979? I believe the episode IV A New Hope was added then.

Not that I recall. Lucasfilm says the first time it said that was 1981 re-release.

The 1978 re-release I don't believe had that title (although some say it did) as Ep V ESB was still 2 years away and I don't think it included that.

I did not go see the re-release in 1981 I know that. As a 15 year old then I was a little more interested in sports and girls. I don't think I saw ESB more than 3-4 times in 1980 but I had seen SW like 20-25 times in theaters from 1977-1978 or so.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Zombie Jon Snow said:
Ha!! People want Ep IX removed yet some still insist on calling the original Star Wars movie Ep. IV A New Hope

Never. It was Star Wars when I saw it in theaters and it's always Star Wars.


While I agree, it is Star Wars, but did you see it during any of its re-releases? 1978 or 1979? I believe the episode IV A New Hope was added then.

Not that I recall. Lucasfilm says the first time it said that was 1981 re-release.

The 1978 re-release I don't believe had that title (although some say it did) as Ep V ESB was still 2 years away and I don't think it included that.

I did not go see the re-release in 1981 I know that. As a 15 year old then I was a little more interested in sports and girls. I don't think I saw ESB more than 3-4 times in 1980 but I had seen SW like 20-25 times in theaters from 1977-1978 or so.
It is possible I am not remembering as it actually was in the movie itself. I saw Star Wars probably 20 times between 1977 and 1982. I want to say Episode IV was added prior to Empire's release but I don't find anything to verify that. I did find a reference to the April 1981 re-release, which I saw several times.

But there was a book published in 1979, The Art of Star Wars (which I happen to own). The episode reference is definitely there in a fourth revision of the screenplay. It very well may be this that I am remembering.
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In reply to TCTTS • 9:42a, 5/28/19
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I have a feeling that the desert stuff is from the 1st act of the film. It'll be like Hoth, where they have set-up base for a while and the First Order has found them out.....at least that's what it seems like to me. They are just showing SO much of it for it to be where the story ends. BUT they did that with TLJ (Crate was huge in the marketing) so, who knows.
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In reply to mazag08 • 9:47a, 5/28/19
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mazag08 said:
TCTTS said:
Rey and Kylo born out of an orgy isn't half bad.


You want your flashback.. how about start the movie with an orgy scene between Han, Luke, Lando, Ackbar, an Ewok, R2, and a bunch of ratchet Jakku chicks.

The Rise of Skywalker has a new meaning.
That does it. No more fan fiction for you!
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In reply to TCTTS • 9:47a, 5/28/19
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seems like a very specific thing to train for:

"ok, now there's going to be a lone tie fighter that will not use its blasters but instead try to run you down in a flying machine."
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