Gotti - 0% critics, 77% audience

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This RT audience score is becoming an even bigger joke. First it was TLJ and Solo with the troll scores, and now the opposite has happened with Gotti.

The movie has a 0% with critics, has made a grand total of $1.7M, and yet has a 77% user score with almost as many reviews as Incredibles 2.

Here's a reddit post detailing how ridiculously transparent this manipulation has been.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8s7dle/gottis_user_reviews_on_rotten_tomatoes_were/

Movie was purchased by Moviepass, by the way. Their second movie.
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Who can I trust!?!
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It might be in RT's interest to figure out a way to protect their product. Audience scores have been a pretty valuable asset to the site.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Not to mention Moviepass should not be purchasing ****ty movies and Mob propaganda.
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CJS4715 said:

It might be in RT's interest to figure out a way to protect their product. Audience scores have been a pretty valuable asset to the site.
I've never paid attention to audience scores. They have always been crap.
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RIP RT
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I love Mob Movies. Love em. I've seen all the classics ie..GF, GF2, Donnie Brasco, Goodfellas, and Casino probably closer to 20 times. Maybe more.

I'll give any mob movie a chance.

That said, I simply cannot bring myself to buy Travolta as Gotti. That has killed any desire of mine to see this movie.

If you want a good Gotti related production check out A&E's Gotti Father and Son Doc. It is REALLY fascinating. Its 40% gangster related, and 60% Gotti the family man related. Really interesting a good watch.
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and yet has a 77% user score with almost as many reviews as Incredibles 2.
Every single Scientologist was required to log on and write a glowing review for this film.
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That's likely true, come to think of it.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Not to mention Moviepass should not be purchasing ****ty movies and Mob propaganda.

Moviepass can do whatever they want as long as it keeps them in business
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

That's likely true, come to think of it.
That's the story I've heard for decades about how the book Battlefield Earth stayed on the bestseller lists: Scientologists would buy every copy of the book off the shelves, then turn them in to the Church. The booksellers would see all their copies gone and would contact the publisher (the Church) and re-order.

Sometimes, these "new" books would even arrive at the stores with price tags from other stores still on them.
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Just got a push notification from Moviepass.

"Audiences love GOTTI but critics think otherwise. Who do you trust? See it today."

This just seems so desperate and sad.
Brian Earl Spilner
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My point exactly.
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I trust TexAgs score more than RT. Maybe we should set up some kind of official scoring system. It can be posted along with Liucci's top 44.
Brian Earl Spilner
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I actually love this idea. Would be awesome to be able to implement a polling system in each movie thread.
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I was wondering why MoviePass kept sending notifications about this stupid movie.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

This RT audience score is becoming an even bigger joke. First it was TLJ and Solo with the troll scores, and now the opposite has happened with Gotti.

The movie has a 0% with critics, has made a grand total of $1.7M, and yet has a 77% user score with almost as many reviews as Incredibles 2.

Here's a reddit post detailing how ridiculously transparent this manipulation has been.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8s7dle/gottis_user_reviews_on_rotten_tomatoes_were/

Movie was purchased by Moviepass, by the way. Their second movie.
I would also argue that the RT critic scores aren't often very reliable either. The website has just passed its time, and is no longer the barometer it once was.
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This is what happens when you let E direct a movie.
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this. RT is dead.
pb488
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Furlock Bones said:

this. RT is dead.


a site which aggregates review scores is dead??
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Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
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pb488 said:

Furlock Bones said:

this. RT is dead.


a site which aggregates review scores is dead??


It's not. RT is listed as one of the most visited sites on the planet.
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Often times very popular things are dead and just don't know it yet. #myspace
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Furlock Bones said:

Often times very popular things are dead and just don't know it yet. #myspace
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YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?
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GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.
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I'm all for trolling Hollywood. I hope RT hires a bunch of sweat shops in India to continue creating fake accounts and messing up the scores of movies, especially the ones Hollywood most fawns over.
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and yet has a 77% user score with almost as many reviews as Incredibles 2.
Every single Scientologist was required to log on and write a glowing review for this film.
I was going to say the same thing, Scientology likely played a part on this one.

They need their cash cow making coin.
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YouBet said:

GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.

I'm not sure you understand how RT works. They aren't saying WW (or BP) is a 97 on a scale of 100. They're saying 97% of reviewers were overall positive. So by your saying WW was good - you'd be part of the 97%.
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CapCityAg89 said:

YouBet said:

GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.

I'm not sure you understand how RT works. They aren't saying WW (or BP) is a 97 on a scale of 100. They're saying 97% of reviewers were overall positive. So by your saying WW was good - you'd be part of the 97%.
I know it works that way. That 97% is inflated because of virtue signaling. That's all. Both these movies are 7.5 on IMDB which is much more realistic and objective. Although, I personally rated BP as a 5 and WW as 7.
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CapCityAg89 said:

YouBet said:

GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.

I'm not sure you understand how RT works. They aren't saying WW (or BP) is a 97 on a scale of 100. They're saying 97% of reviewers were overall positive. So by your saying WW was good - you'd be part of the 97%.


I think most people understands how RT works, but typically, the higher the score, the better the individual reviews are. A movie with a 97% isn't going to have a bunch of decent reviews. For the most part, they're going to be glowing.
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Bruce Almighty said:

CapCityAg89 said:

YouBet said:

GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.

I'm not sure you understand how RT works. They aren't saying WW (or BP) is a 97 on a scale of 100. They're saying 97% of reviewers were overall positive. So by your saying WW was good - you'd be part of the 97%.


I think most people understands how RT works, but typically, the higher the score, the better the individual reviews are. A movie with a 97% isn't going to have a bunch of decent reviews. For the most part, they're going to be glowing.
Exactly.
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YouBet said:

CapCityAg89 said:

YouBet said:

GiveEmHellBill said:

YouBet said:

Interesting. I just deleted my flixster app because of how ridiculous RT has become. After Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Solo, and now this it's worthless.

Trying IMDB for now. App is 100s better anyway.
Wait, you thought Wonder Woman and Black Panther were bad movies?


I thought WW was good. Black Panther was average. Neither are 97% or whatever it was they ended up as.

I'm not sure you understand how RT works. They aren't saying WW (or BP) is a 97 on a scale of 100. They're saying 97% of reviewers were overall positive. So by your saying WW was good - you'd be part of the 97%.
I know it works that way. That 97% is inflated because of virtue signaling. That's all. Both these movies are 7.5 on IMDB which is much more realistic and objective. Although, I personally rated BP as a 5 and WW as 7.


I think most people use the user rating (I guess maybe Travolta and Cruise movies not withstanding). Black Panther was a 79 which sounds like it is very similar to IMDB. Solo got a 64. I'm not sure how just compiling thousands of viewer reviews isn't objective? All your examples are science fiction, so maybe you either have a very high bar for this genre or you just don't like the genre? Either way, you could be demonstrating a bias which isn't very objective.
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So has anyone here seen this movie?
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