FYI - ROUND ONE VOTING IS CLOSED




This is the FIRST ROUND - you may vote for between 1 and 12 albums in this round.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BG3JMVW

Entries are alphabetical by band name - if you can't find it look for "The" preceding the band name. I've included all legit nominated bands/albums that were actual debut albums.

Voting will remain open for approx. 4 days - concluding Friday sometime.


The Top 12 from this voting round will make the semifinals - In the semifinals you can then vote for your top 4.
The top 4 will make the finals - in the finals you can vote for 1.

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I'll put this to rest. Let me get over there and vote.

Oh heck I need to check out Black Sabbath first

VanZandt92 said:

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I'll put this to rest. Let me get over there and vote.

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based on username i'm assuming...

Lynyrd Skynyrd is gonna jump up in the ranks.

I wonder how many of these albums were initially panned by Rolling Stone and other critics?

Not Springsteen Asbury Park.

A little surprised to see Liz Phair on there.

I can't vote Talking Heads because I didn't hear that until much later in life. No established opinion.

English Beat is interesting. I had no idea which album their good music was from.

Damn this is going to take some time.

So far I have REM Murmur, The Clash, The Doors.

Some of these albums haven't undergone the test of time yet. Like Mumford and Sons.

ok here we go








RUSH where it at?

Ha, thanks for including KOL. I didn't expect it to be in the voting. Nor do I think it is the greatest debut album ever. I was reminiscing back at how good the album is, as a KOL fan.

VanZandt92 said:

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ok here we go








RUSH where it at?

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I just thought of another that never got mentioned....Foo Fighters.


RUSH never got nominated....and the debut album while it has a couple of good songs was really such a departure from later Rush albums - due to both Peart as a drummer and Peart as a lyricist not involved - and the fact that they were mostly trying to be Zeppelin-esque on that first album I think keeps people from thinking it is a great debut album really....like greatest ever anyway.

Does bring up though what I think is another interesting one.....greatest rock band album from a complete or significant band overhaul or direction change.

Rush - Fly By Night would be on that once Neil Peart came on board
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) when they added Buckingham and Nicks
Genesis - ...And Then There Were Three... after the departure of Peter Gabriel
Jefferson Starship - Dragon Fly after ditching Jefferson Airplane and retooling (not Starship the abomination of the 80's)
Eagles - Hotel California after departure of country roots (Bernie Leadon) and adding rock guitarist Joe Walsh shortly after adding Don Felder as well (who barely appeared on previous album One of These Nights)
Yes - 90125 major retooling after 1981 breakup and adding Trevor Rabin

That's cool. I agree Working Man was incredible, but the remainder of the album I don't actually recall very well.

last courtesy reminder bump....first round ends manana probably early morning.....i moved it up a day as voting has trailed off steeply.


Interesting voting - some as expected but some real interesting ones in the top 15 or so currently so the semifinal 12 (plus ties) will be interesting - thats all I'm gonna say I'm not lobbying for anything here.

Not saying it deserves to be on the list, but I think Linkin Park's debut is one of the highest selling of all time. Could be wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere.

edit - may be highest selling debut of 21st century.

Elvis Presley

cena05 said:

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Not saying it deserves to be on the list, but I think Linkin Park's debut is one of the highest selling of all time. Could be wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere.

edit - may be highest selling debut of 21st century.

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must be 21st century because I can tell you Pearl Jam's 10 and GnR Appetite for Destruction have sold more than Linkin Park's debut Hybrid Theory.

in fact i searched a bit just now.....

This list has it at #10 in all-time debut albums in sales:

http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/top-10-best-selling-debut-albums-in-us-history/

and apparently we left 3 big entries off this vote/loist

Britney
Backstreet Boys
Jewel

don't think those would have cracked th Top 12 in votes though - lol.

Can't believe The Eagles self titled didn't make the cut

rhutton125 said:

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Can't believe The Eagles self titled didn't make the cut

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ok....was never nominated by anyone....and i'll give the counterargument. but don't take it the wrong way I love the Eagles.


not a bad album certainly...but far from the eagles best....barely went platinum and that was only in 2001 after it had been out for 29 years. It was never higher than #22 on the album chart in 1972. Certainly didn't set the world on fire, i think those songs (witchy woman, lyin eyes, take it easy) became more well known after they became more well known - in other words as "oldies" and on classic rock stations and really as part of the original Greatest Hits album which became such a huge seller (more so than the albums they came from).

Seems like in a lot of these cases if their debut was one of the best ever it was also that bands best album or close to it anyway. Certainly thats not universal. But when people think of the eagles they think Hotel Calfornia not the debut album.

That's fair. I guess it depends what we're looking for too - are these like, record-breaking, burst on the scene debuts? Or just the best first-entries out there? Because record sales and so on may not be of importance, depending on the criteria.

The only reason the Eagles self-titled comes to mind, to be honest, is because it may be one of the best "first album, first track" selections. Like they could have started and stopped at Take It Easy and they'd still be a more successful band than 99% of the ones out there.

Good stuff overall, though - none of this is meant as a critique. I should have nominated the album but at the same time it probably wouldn't have made any waves - like a 68th-best March Madness team.

Ok I listened to both The Smiths and Black Sabbath and neither gets the nod. The Smiths had one of the best guitarists of the era, but that isnt' the album. It was too much Morrissey.

And the Black Sabbath first album felt like they were barely getting off the ground.

This one easly beats out Black Sabbath:

Van Halen, Doors, REM Murmur still hold up, as does Appetite for Destruction.

I hope Arcade Fire makes it through. Funeral is an amazing album in and of itself. The fact that it's a debut makes it only more so interesting.

Old thread, but a good tie in to this one.

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/2052180/1

I think I picked REM, Beastie Boys, Yaz, David Gray, Ramones, and Pearl Jam.

Can't remember the others.

I also voted Pearl Jam. I discovered them after a nasty break up. Used to rock to that when driving to Surfside when a storm came in.

Damn man I missed Zeppelin on the survey

VOTING IS NOW CLOSED

I'll post the results soon (today) and the voting link for the 2nd round.

RESULTS of first round

Well the first round results are in I'm going to mostly refrain from commenting but one of the albums to make the semifinals really surprised me but that's all I'm gonna say about that.onto the SemiFinals..


I'm not going to tell you the vote totals of the Top 12 semifinalists don't want that to influence the voting in the next round I can update it after. This is displayed in a random order.

Top 12 all had 25+ votes (20% or more) with exactly 100 votes cast. The most votes received was 58/100.

The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Van Halen - Van Halen
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
Boston - Boston
Stevie Ray Vaughan Texas Flood
Pearl Jam - Ten
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Weezer - Weezer (Blue Album)
Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
Mumford & Sons - Sigh No More


Side note: personally a little disappointed the big 3 Punk landmark albums did not fare better - I thought at least one deserved a semifinal place. Perhaps the vote was split between The Clash (13), The Ramones (8) and The Sex Pistols (10).....oh well.......not even the Beatles made the semifinals but they were very close.



Double Digits:

Stone Temple Pilots Core 21
The Beatles - Please Please Me 20
Counting Crows - August and Everything After 20
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine 19
Snoop Dogg Doggystyle 19
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Clearwater Revival 19
Hootie and the Blowfish - Cracked Rear View 18
Dave Matthews Band - Under The Table and Dreaming 18
Matchbox 20 - Yourself or Someone Like You 14
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory 14
Third Eye Blind - Third Eye Blind 14
Alice In Chains Facelift 13
Adele 19 = 13
R.E.M. Murmur 13
The Clash - The Clash 13
The Doors - The Doors 12
Metallica - Kill 'Em All 12
The Who - My Generation 12
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine 12
Lynyrd Skynyrd - (Pronounced 'Lh-'nrd 'Skin-'nrd) 11
The Cars - The Cars 11
The Killers - Hot Fuss 11
Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley 11
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols 10
Arcade Fire Funeral 10


Also Rans

Madonna Madonna 9
Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston 9
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me 9
Kanye West - The College Dropout 9
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die 8
The Ramones - Ramones 8
Jeff Buckley Grace 8
Oasis - Definitely Maybe 7
Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog 7
Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes 7
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath 7
U2 Boy 7
Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood 7
Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker 6
Buddy Holly Buddy Holly 6
Nas Illmatic 6
Bruce Springsteen - Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J. 5
Pretenders Pretenders 5
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 5
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico 5
Talking Heads - Talking Heads: 77 = 5
The Band - Music From Big Pink 5
The Police - Outlandos D'Amour 4
Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn 4
Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago 4
The Flying Burrito Bros - The Gilded Palace Of Sin 4
The Strokes - Is This It 3
Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R 3
Tool Opiate 3
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz 3
Collective Soul - Hints Allegations and Things Left Unsaid 3
Chicago -Chicago Transit Authority 3
Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend 3
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin' 3
Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville 3
The Refreshments - Fizzy fuzzy big & buzzy 3
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 3
Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C. 3
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt 3
Lady GaGa - The Fame 2
Korn Korn 2
Yazoo - Upstairs At Eric's 2
Daft Punk Homework 2
Kendrick Lamar - Section.8 2
Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True 2
A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms 2
Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule 2
The Postal Service - Give Up 2
The Smiths - The Smiths 2
The XX xx 2
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell 2
The Stooges - The Stooges 2
Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! 2
Mad Season Above 2
The Jesus And Mary Chain Psychocandy 2
Pavement - Slanted And Enchanted 1
Patti Smith Horses 1
X - Los Angeles 1
New York Dolls - New York Dolls 1
The Hold Steady - Almost Killed Me 1
De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising 1
Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full 1
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing..... 1
The Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man 1
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 1
Portishead Dummy 1
Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand 1
MGMT - Oracular Spectacular 1
Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual 1
Go-Go's - Beauty And The Beat 1
Big Star - #1 Record 1
Deftones Adrenaline 1
Suicide Suicide 1
David Gray - A Century Ends 1
The Darkness Permission to Land 1
Rose Tattoo Rose Tattoo 1


"O-Fers"

Don't complain if one of these is yours and didn't get a single vote - that means you didn't vote for it either....

The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic 0
The B-52's - The B-52's 0
Television - Marquee Moon 0
The Libertines - Up The Bracket 0
The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers 0
Gang Of Four - Entertainment! 0
P J Harvey Dry 0
Wire - Pink Flag 0
M.I.A. Arular 0
Missy Misdemeanor Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly 0
Drake - Thank Me Later 0
Moby Grape - Moby Grape 0
Joe Jackson - Look Sharp! 0
Fiona Apple Tidal 0
Roxy Music - Roxy Music 0
Little Richard - Here's Little Richard 0
The English Beat - I Just Can't Stop It 0
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses 0
Ghost - Opus Eponymous 0
Mastodon Remission 0
Pantera Metal Magic 0
Radiohead - Pablo Honey 0
Ministry With Sympathy 0
The Poor - Who Cares 0
Rhino Bucket Rhino Bucket 0

Somehow I missed this thread originally, damnit. I love these surveys.
Not that anyone gives a crap since it only received 3 votes but Rated R is NOT the debut album from QOTSA. That would be the self-titled album that came out 2 years prior in 1998. My first listen to this group was Rated R so my guess it is a common mistake but for the 3 people that voted for Rated R you should really give the debut a listen. Pretty raw sound comparatively but still good.