Vision was Ultron's vision of his perfect form.
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Vision was Ultron's vision of his perfect form.
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And Vision's flesh is laced with Vibranium, right?
What set his AI to good, rather than the destructive anti-human of Ultron? Was it Thor's doing? Did I miss any reprogramming from Stark/Banner?
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And Vision's flesh is laced with Vibranium, right?
What set his AI to good, rather than the destructive anti-human of Ultron? Was it Thor's doing? Did I miss any reprogramming from Stark/Banner?
Jarvis provided the "good" component.
quote:That makes sense. OK, so JARVIS wasn't a fully sentient AI, but with the Mind Gem it had become one. And, JARVIS + Mind Gem was able to overcome the Ultron programming in Vision, or was it a blank slate?quote:quote:
And Vision's flesh is laced with Vibranium, right?
What set his AI to good, rather than the destructive anti-human of Ultron? Was it Thor's doing? Did I miss any reprogramming from Stark/Banner?
Jarvis provided the "good" component.
Yup, the core of his consciousness is composed of JARVIS.
quote:quote:That makes sense. OK, so JARVIS wasn't a fully sentient AI, but with the Mind Gem it had become one. And, JARVIS + Mind Gem was able to overcome the Ultron programming in Vision, or was it a blank slate?quote:quote:
And Vision's flesh is laced with Vibranium, right?
What set his AI to good, rather than the destructive anti-human of Ultron? Was it Thor's doing? Did I miss any reprogramming from Stark/Banner?
Jarvis provided the "good" component.
Yup, the core of his consciousness is composed of JARVIS.
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The problem with the movie and with Ultron as a villain, was that you didn't for a second think that anyone had any chance of dying. Nobody struggled with the robot army either.
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The problem with the movie and with Ultron as a villain, was that you didn't for a second think that anyone had any chance of dying. Nobody struggled with the robot army either.
And just when you think they might be in over their heads, they miraculously discover/ create a new all powered superhero to defeat the greatest enemy they have ever faced. I don't think Vision should have been in this movie, and I definitely think Ultron should have spanned multiple movies.
And you have a freaking God on your side. In his own movies, he is all powerful and feared across worlds. Yet on Earth, he is just a member of a team and barely more powerful than other members.
This movie was fantastic, but the whole thing didn't have the feel of the first one. That with overwhelming odds and nowhere to turn, they had to work together to win.
quote:I don't disagree that Ultron seemed more like a plot device rather than main focus later in the movie, but you have to have Vision if you have Ultron. Now, if they had split this into two movies, then I could see the first one not having Vision.
And just when you think they might be in over their heads, they miraculously discover/ create a new all powered superhero to defeat the greatest enemy they have ever faced. I don't think Vision should have been in this movie, and I definitely think Ultron should have spanned multiple movies.
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Forgot about Quicksilver. But the actor was terrible and he was not a character you connected to.
quote:It's definitely possible that he uploaded a copy of himself to some server that was taken off line prior to the final battle, but the Vision made a point to say that he eliminated Ultron from the internet while also preventing him from uploading a new copy during the battle.
I have a hard time believing that ultron didn't back up a copy of himself in the cloud.
quote:quote:It's definitely possible that he uploaded a copy of himself to some server that was taken off line prior to the final battle, but the Vision made a point to say that he eliminated Ultron from the internet while also preventing him from uploading a new copy during the battle.
I have a hard time believing that ultron didn't back up a copy of himself in the cloud.
quote:dude that would take like a hundred sky-drive accounts..be realistic
I have a hard time believing that ultron didn't back up a copy of himself in the cloud.
quote:quote:dude that would take like a hundred sky-drive accounts..be realistic
I have a hard time believing that ultron didn't back up a copy of himself in the cloud.
quote:I may be in the minority, but I didn't really care for him in the X-Men movie. Oh wow, he uses his powers to be a petty crook and is just generally a dick. They use him for one admittedly cool scene and then tell him to go home? Not to mention the HUUUUGGGEEEEE goof where he can apparently listen to a song on his Walkman while running at superfast speed. Wouldn't he in actuality just be listening to the first note of the song being drawn out over the course of his actions?
He was better in X-Men. I did like when he grabbed the hammer though.
quote:quote:I may be in the minority, but I didn't really care for him in the X-Men movie. Oh wow, he uses his powers to be a petty crook and is just generally a dick. They use him for one admittedly cool scene and then tell him to go home? Not to mention the HUUUUGGGEEEEE goof where he can apparently listen to a song on his Walkman while running at superfast speed. Wouldn't he in actuality just be listening to the first note of the song being drawn out over the course of his actions?
He was better in X-Men. I did like when he grabbed the hammer though.
I thought the Avengers Quicksilver was a much better character: his motivations made sense, his interactions with his sister was welcome in these movies and he had an actual arc to his character.
quote:once it started to drop, there were thrusters pushing it down.quote:quote:I may be in the minority, but I didn't really care for him in the X-Men movie. Oh wow, he uses his powers to be a petty crook and is just generally a dick. They use him for one admittedly cool scene and then tell him to go home? Not to mention the HUUUUGGGEEEEE goof where he can apparently listen to a song on his Walkman while running at superfast speed. Wouldn't he in actuality just be listening to the first note of the song being drawn out over the course of his actions?
He was better in X-Men. I did like when he grabbed the hammer though.
I thought the Avengers Quicksilver was a much better character: his motivations made sense, his interactions with his sister was welcome in these movies and he had an actual arc to his character.
if you want to get nit-picky, you can also add the idea that a gravity free fall from jet liner heights of that chunk of city would really kill billions of people. maybe if it was travelling at normal asteroid speeds.
quote:Oh I totally agree, he could have beamed himself to some place off planet or been backed up to some off-line storage like I mentioned.quote:quote:It's definitely possible that he uploaded a copy of himself to some server that was taken off line prior to the final battle, but the Vision made a point to say that he eliminated Ultron from the internet while also preventing him from uploading a new copy during the battle.
I have a hard time believing that ultron didn't back up a copy of himself in the cloud.
Ultron can easily come back if Marvel wants him to
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Forgot about Quicksilver. But the actor was terrible and he was not a character you connected to.
quote:His clothes don't fly off due to wind. His goggles stay on. Magneto speeds up with him when he grabs him. Is it totally unreasonable to think that his Walkman speeds up like everything else? Yours is an interesting point but one that's explained fairly easily. I definitely wouldn't call it a "HUUUUGGGEEEEE" goof. But I don't mean to derail....
But the idea of him putting on his headphones while time has slowed to a crawl and somehow his music plays normally was just kinda odd, even for a fantastical comic book film.
quote:Same reaction in the showing I was in yesterday, although I think it was also a bit of relief/shock that Hawkeye was alright followed immediately by the realization that Quicksilver had instead given his life.quote:
Forgot about Quicksilver. But the actor was terrible and he was not a character you connected to.
My audience disagrees with you in both showings. There were audible shocks and groans from the audience when he died