If you guys are going to social justice warrior (which I strongly support, including following @naacp on Twitter) does it really have to be done here? Usually movie threads are just to discuss the merits of a particular cinematic release.
quote:Yeah, I'd like to think that comic readers are a bit more thoughtful bunch, but I imagine you've got your idiots like any other demographic.quote:Haha, true enough. I agree that it is an interesting topic. I think you see some of the same issues in what the whole gamergate thing morphed into.quote:Well, in your defense I think there's an interesting discussion to be had on this topic. He's probably just not the one to have it withquote:I know he is and yet I still took the bait, didn't I?
This movie will do well because it's good or simply because it's being heavily marketed, or fail because it looks kind of awful, not much to do with race either way.
Redstone is known for being more than a bit of a troll on here, FYI.
quote:lol, you were the one who started it. Troll confirmed.
If you guys are going to social justice warrior (which I strongly support, including following @naacp on Twitter) does it really have to be done here? Usually movie threads are just to discuss the merits of a particular cinematic release.
quote:I'll probably go see it at a matinee one afternoon. Not going to spend a bunch a money or date night capital getting the GF to go see it with me. None of my friends really want to go see it either.
So I'm the only one that thinks this movie looks good? The director's previous movie was pretty damn good, and it has 2 actors in it that I think are excellent.
quote:Bingo. Deadpool seems self aware of what it is, and by appearances is going to run with it. Outside of the trailers, I haven't seen much in the way of marketing for FF4, granted I haven't been following as close as I have any of the MCU. Or hell, even as close as I have been watching the DC films.
I see the F4 marketing as the opposite of the marketing for Deadpool. These are both films that might fail spectacularly (for different reasons), but Deadpool knows exactly what it is. It will live or die on its own merits and flaws.
What is F4? Is it a pure superhero flick? Some of the trailers push it as a sort of broody military film. Is it hard sci fi? I have no idea what the tone and theme of the movie will be. That will hurt it.
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Rumors are that production was a trainwreck and the director was checked out for large portions of filming (and I liked Chronicle too btw), and the tone just seems all over the place and kind of off for these characters.
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I find it really hard to believe this movie is below green lantern level (which I was okish for me even) at 20%. The trailer looks like a rehash, but it doesn't look that bad. I think this is one of those movies that people/critics are just going to love to hate.
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I haven't followed this at all. And I know nothing about the franchise
Is this supposed to be in the x-men movie universe?
The spider man movie universe?
Supermans?
Batmans?
The big marvel one with captain America and iron man ?
Lee's hulk?
By itself?
quote:Do some reading on the director and this film. Billy Walsh sounds like a reasonable comparison
It is a shame that this movie appears not to have turned out great. It had an absolutely amazing cast to work with and a good director.
so sad.
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What this film does is something different, something actually sort of in line with the original Challengers of the Unknown. This Fantastic Four is a science fiction movie, and it's a cracking good one until the third act when it is dragged kicking and screaming into being a superhero movie and falls apart.
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As much of a letdown as the ending is, I like the actors here. I like this iteration of the characters. I like this world, one that has a foot in reality and a foot in the sort of gee-whiz scifi where whiz kids build and use a dimensional transporter. Yes, Fantastic Four faceplants, but there's too much good in here to dismiss it completely. There's too much quality, too much talent on display to hope that this iteration joins the rest on the trash heap of history. What the movie gets wrong is infuriating and disappointing, but what it gets right completely captures what I want a movie like this to be.
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After 29 reviews, only three have been positive so far. That is quite a mess.
My hope now is that it will bomb tremendously, sequel plans will be cancelled, and somehow Marvel will get the rights back. That's not because I want to see another attempt at Fantastic Four, but because I'd rather a movie be made because someone is passionate about the material and the time is right than making one every so often to retain rights to the characters.
I think Fantastic Four 2015 was a film nobody asked for, nobody cared about, and now nobody will see. Oof.