Who has watched it? What did you think? I'll post my thoughts once some others do. Also did anyone else chuckle when they saw Billy's background?

hoosier-daddy said:

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i'll wait until it comes out on vhs

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I saw it at a Blockbuster near me last week. They also had a sign saying laser disc release was next month.

I can't tell if you're serious or if this is a GB bit.

swc93 said:

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The family coming from oil money bit was great.

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They actually do come from oil money and I'm sure they still collect quite a bit in royalty checks. At a minimum they are upper middle class. They just exaggerated it to explain the private jets and court side seats. The Manziels were never poor and are wealthier than most.

What background?

Was TexAgs.

Kk wasn't the only one that looked rough.

Billy looked greasy. Possibly the makeup they used. But it did him no favors.

Is this ok for a 12 year old to watch?

Ginormus Ag said:

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Is this ok for a 12 year old to watch?

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I'd say no. I was going to watch with my 13 year old son but there are a lot of very adult topics like drug abuse and suicide. While it tells a cautionary tale of substance abuse - the scenes of current day Johnny still show him drinking and smoking. Life is complicated but those messages aren't exactly what I want to send my 13 year old as a hero. Don't think it's for kids. With that said it was very well done and I still think Johnny is awesome.

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

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Cool 12 year olds who smoke, maybe.

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watched with my 13 yr old. Lots of cussing, some mentions of drug use and mention of suicide. Nothing overtly sexual.

obviously up to you as a father, or head coach , to decide if they watch and talk about how the most gifted people can be have serious issues.

dang, i was watching lethal weapon and whatnot when I was 8.

I watched it last night. it was interesting to learn what was going on behind the scenes as some of that stuff unfolded, but when it was done I was left wondering what the whole point of it was. Was it supposed to make viewers feel sorry for him?

Well, it certainly did that. It just sort of seemed unfinished to me.

Flashdiaz said:

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because his story is unfinished.

I like the fact they didn't try to put a pretty little bow on it at then end.

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Yeah, act III hasn't happened, yet. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Lol at saying it feels unfinished. Did you want him to die at the end or something

Decay said:

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Lol at saying it feels unfinished. Did you want him to die at the end or something

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No. Have you ever read a book and it was super obvious the author ran up against their deadline because the entire thing gets closed out in a page or two? That's what it felt like to me - The ending seemed very abrupt.

I do hope this leads to a broader examination of how student athletes are manipulated and taken advantage of so schools and the NCAA can make billions of dollars off their backs.

Ryan the Temp said:

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I watched it last night. it was interesting to learn what was going on behind the scenes as some of that stuff unfolded, but when it was done I was left wondering what the whole point of it was. Was it supposed to make viewers feel sorry for him?

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I got the same "unfinished" feeling about the documentary and I think it's because they highlighted too many things in the time they had. In a little over an hour, they went from talking about his past in playing at Tivy, his recruitment, A&M's jump to the SEC, his playing time at A&M, the autographing situation and his ultimate downfall while playing for Cleveland.

I thought the production was strange in that his mom, dad and sister were interviewed separately. There were all these people talking for/about Johnny and unfortunately I don't think that none of them really know who Johnny really is. I don't even know if Johnny knows who he really is either and I think that's why the production also seems unfinished.

I'd say that my favorite parts was when Johnny was talking about the games that he played in, his narration about the Alabama game where he made all the correct calls and great throws.

The one question that I keep coming back to is why do this documentary if you're Johnny? If he truly is on the path to recovery or is in a better place, why come back to those memories that haunt him? Is it because he enjoys being in the limelight? The payout was that good? His way of saying "F U" to the NCAA? I just get an uneasy feeling about all of that.

I think I'd have to see it again to pay attention to their body language to see if there's more to what they're saying.

To each their own, but I would say no.

Can get passed the cursing, but the drinking, drug use, and honestly JFF showing little growth (I mean he's still only 29) I had to tell my older than 12 kids multiple times, this is not someone you want to aspire to be.

Oh man you had to parent? T&Ps

The only thing the doc was missing was Sarah Savage.



I am ok with them leaving out Johnny's "Ex-Wife"

Lol

"This is not what you want to aspire to be"

"K boomer"