wsjag
  |   posted 11:12a, 03/05/12   
Not asking about an exclusive course like a TPC or a PGA level course but your average muni that we mostly play at.
For all the long days and work they have to put up with is it someone in the $50-60K range when you factor in lessons?
They probably do it for love of the game more than anything...
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HouAggie
 |  posted 11:53a, 03/05/12
If you're talking about a typical assistant pro, your number is too high by a good amount. There's some money in the golf biz, but not until you're a GM or director of golf, etc.
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AgPrognosticator
  | posted 12:31p, 03/05/12
Low 30's for an assitant pro at your run-of-the-mill course.
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Troutslime
 |  posted 12:33p, 03/05/12
If you like playing golf, don't go into the business.
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Prior22
| posted 6:13p, 03/05/12
Troutslime nailed it. Have a couple of buddies that decided to go this route and all of them said the game just isn't fun anywhere (Newsflash: That's because it's a job). I know there are plenty of pros out there that love the gig, but I know for a fact that the hours blow, especially when you're starting out. And $30K for being an assistant pro is pretty spot-on.
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agsuper1
 | posted 8:58p, 03/05/12
When they owned the shops they made some serious coin back in the day. There was one pro in town pulling down 500k before his shop was bought out by a management company. Hou is right you have to be a dir if golf or gm and then you can make 60-250k a year. My wife is a gm and makes pretty decent money.
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amg405
| posted 1:10a, 03/15/12
Brother in law is director of golf at a decent Houston course. I think he's in the 60-70 range.
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powerbelly51
  |  posted 9:29a, 03/15/12
The key is for the head pro to own the golf shop. That is where the guys make a lot of money. Before that there isn't much.
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ILuvAgLand
| posted 10:20a, 03/15/12
Don't a lot of them own the carts and pocket the cart fee?
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HouAggie
| posted 10:24a, 03/15/12
I think owning anything is pretty much a thing of the past. I'm not aware of any currently that own any part of the business (at least in Houston area).
Not saying they're not out there.
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TUhatr
| posted 12:25p, 03/15/12
Exactly...have you guys ever meet a very "nice" assistant pro? Usually they are typical a-hoes...always in a bad mood and look miserable. I never would want to be that guy.
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shaynew1
| posted 1:20p, 03/15/12
you guys are still overshooting some. unless your guys are hustling a gillion lessons.
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powerbelly51
| posted 1:24p, 03/15/12
I know of a few in Dallas, but I agree that this aspect is changing.
quote:
I think owning anything is pretty much a thing of the past. I'm not aware of any currently that own any part of the business (at least in Houston area).
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agsuper1
| posted 4:42p, 03/15/12
I had operators on my maintenance staff making more than assistants
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big ben
| posted 9:32p, 03/15/12
I heard through the grapevine that the pro at Sherrill Park makes well into the 6 figures, but he also owns all the carts, etc.
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Lloyd Christmas
 | posted 8:43a, 03/16/12
http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/government-employee-salaries/
Look up your muni's asst pro. You'll know why they're always pissed.
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aginlakeway
|  posted 9:20a, 03/16/12
My experience ...
The only people I know who are financially happy working at a golf course are (1) The GM and (2) Those who have other incomes or those who don't really have to work (working for the perks, and having access to a course for free is a huge perk for many).
The rest of them working at a golf course are financially miserable, and their attitudes usually reflect that.
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aginlakeway
| posted 9:20a, 03/16/12
RE: Low 30's for an assitant pro at your run-of-the-mill course.
Try low 20's.
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HouAggie
|  posted 11:19a, 03/16/12
Kinda goes against this statement you made the other day...
quote:
I would assume that MOST amateur golfers would love to be a no name pro somewhere
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aginlakeway
| posted 12:02p, 03/16/12
HouAggie,
Wow. I didn't know you read everything I wrote so closely. I'm flattered my words mean so much to you.
I disagree. My 2 statements AREN'T different. Being a golf pro is a dream job for many amateur golfers ... but like many dream jobs, it may not pay very well.
You have to have other financial interests to be financially happy as a club golf pro.
Thanks for paying so close attention to what I post!
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HouAggie
| posted 12:11p, 03/16/12
No worries. With all the dumb sht you post, I have to keep a spreadsheet to keep up with it all!
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aginlakeway
| posted 12:17p, 03/16/12
Wow. Good for you! I never even thought about keeping up so closely (even days later) with what a stranger posts on a blog.
Have a great weekend.
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RealTalk
| posted 12:38p, 03/16/12
quote:
Being a golf pro is a dream job for many amateur golfers
Not really...they dream about actually being on the PGA Tour and playing golf professionally. Nobody dreams about being a golf pro at their local course giving lessons, running operations, and manning the pro shop.
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HouAggie
|  posted 12:39p, 03/16/12
Will do. Looking like I should get in 36 this weekend.
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aginlakeway
| posted 1:06p, 03/16/12
18 are on me one weekend in the Austin area.
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aginlakeway
| posted 1:10p, 03/16/12
RealTalk,
RE: Nobody dreams about being a golf pro at their LOCAL COURSE giving lessons, running operations, and manning the pro shop.
Actually, I know many folks that do want that job, especially if it's at two Nicklaus signature courses in a beautiful part of the state. That's a far cry from a local course.
Regardless, it sure beats working!
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RealTalk
| posted 3:02p, 03/16/12
You missed my point.
PGA Tour golf professional vs golf pro at Nicklaus designed course in a nice part of the state.
9 out of 10 will pick PGA Tour golf professional.
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shaynew1
| posted 3:37p, 03/16/12
you want to add a 'capable of making a few cuts' disclaimer in the pga player option?
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DannyDuberstein
| posted 4:07p, 03/16/12
I've always heard that if you love golf, don't go into the golf industry - including club pro. What looks great to you seems like torture to me - having to watch others play and enjoy golf while you answer phones, work as a glorified cashier, assemble 4-somes, help hacks with their awful swings, all while making ****ty money. I'm just fine making several times more money doing somethign else and still finding plenty of time to play golf each week.
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clintaggie04
 |  posted 7:21p, 03/16/12
My dad has been the pro at a pretty nice totally private club for 31 years. Yes, that's right, he has been at the same club for 31 years. Totally unheard of in the golf world. He makes a good living, but he sure isn't rich.
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aginlakeway
| posted 7:41p, 03/16/12
I don't think how much money you make is the key to happiness, or what makes a job a good job or a bad job. I think doing what you love doing is the key. And if you can pay your bills doing that ...
Me ... I did very well in non-golf businesses for 20 years. So now at age 48, I am able to get out of the real world and am back in the golf business. I love it. I love what I do and where I work and who I get to work with.
So maybe I'm not living the dream of many, or so they say on this board, but I'm financially well off. I'm married to a beautiful woman who also happens to be my best friend, I live in a nice home on the golf course I work at. We have a Mercedes and a golf cart in the garage. We are VERY healthy. And we have season tickets and love Aggie football.
So maybe I'm not living the dream many would have. But I enjoy my life. And it's good enough for me!
RealTalk ... anytime you want to play golf in Austin, let me know ...
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obxag
 | posted 5:28a, 03/18/12
aginlakeway, what course are you at?
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The D
 |  posted 12:56p, 03/18/12
quote:
We have a Mercedes and a golf cart in the garage
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DannyDuberstein
| posted 3:58p, 03/18/12
Oh dear. Serious life validation being sought on this thread. For what its worth, nowhere did I say that money is what makes a good or bad job. Might want to reread my post if thats all you took from it.
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Nom de Plume
 |  posted 4:21p, 03/18/12
DD, all of the pros at my club get to play a bunch. It was the same when I worked at a course in high school. It may not suck as bad as you think.
lakeway, your situation is not typical and not at all what most folks are talking about here.
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