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Laughed when I read this:

"No longer will their reps be seated in the George Bailey chair while Texas’ DeLoss Dodds hovers over them in the Mr. Potter seat."

http://www.mrsec.com/2012/02/mizzou-a-d-announces-football-changes-and-rising-ticket-prices/
KingAgWhami
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I find it a little unusual that the conference would have governing authority in re-entry into a school's own stadium for ticket holders.

Is this a common thing? This seems quite weird to me. Shouldn't the school be allowed to decide this? What does the conference care?
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Finally, on April 14th Nike will unveil Missouri’s new look. The move is designed to make the school’s color of gold match from sport to sport. Also, expect to see more of the Tiger head logo on the new uniforms than the “block M.”


NOOOO!!!! How will we compete with mizzou in recruiting now?! /sarcasm

But I didn't know they were able to do this - that must have been allsome. Too bad they are losing that privilege:

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Missouri fans have had the ability in the past to tailgate before games, during games and after games. But those trips to the parking lot for a little halftime pick-me-up, well, those are going away. It’s SEC policy that there are no “pass outs” during games. So once fans enter Faurot Field, they will not be allowed to leave and then re-enter

KingAgWhami
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But I didn't know they were able to do this - that must have been allsome


There are many schools that allow you to do this.
stetson
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more of the Tiger head logo on the new uniforms than the “block M.”

Block letters are so 20th century.
The Chicken Ranch
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Missouri fans need to learn how to use a flask. Then the "leaving at half time" issue becomes moot.
KLSanchez
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"No, officer, that's not a keg, that's my beer belly... seriously."
fightintxaggie10
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A&M's vote counted the same as Texas' vote. A&M usually voted with Texas.

A&M was a proponent and beneficiary of unequal revenue sharing based on revenue generated.

Your delusion about Potter and Bailey is absurd.




You ****ing retard. You realize we were just fighting to get a reasonable amount that is on par (At best) with other strong football conferences. It wasn't our fault that Kansas Iowa State Baylor etc got screwed in the process. YALL are the ones keeping it that way. YAll's leadership were the ones claiming, "Longhorns get more because we are more important". THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT is for the longhorns (The greatest earner) to agree to equal pay. Instead we went to a superior conference to get more than we could EVER get in the Big 12. I'll miss rivalries and games with Tech,Baylor, and tu, but its not worth staying in that BS conf with a glass ceiling for everyone in it but tu. You are a moron. MORON

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KiptoMilo
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Texas A&M did vote for unequal revenue sharing. To suggest otherwise is not true. What are you disagreeing with?
MSU/SECALUM
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And the equal revenue sharing where everyone signed over their television rights for the next 6 years still has not happened in the Big 12? It has been three months since everyone agreed to it but nothing has been signed what is the hold up? I think it is all smoke and mirrors and nothing more. This will never happen.
fightintxaggie10
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You can say we voted for "Unequal revenue", but we were voting to get $$ that was somewhat reasonable when compared to conferences like the Big 10, but still not as good as the SEC.

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ski-man
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A&M might have agreed with the unequal revenue sharing, but don't think that was the reason A&M wanted to make the move. It was more likely the maneuvering t.u. was doing with regards to the LHN that goes against the idea of a "conference" of teams.

Let's go ski-man!
ckwarren33
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I think, gentle Texass fans, that A&M headed for the SEC out of a desire to be part of a conference of equals. Texass does not want a conference of equals. They want to own a plantation complete with sharecroppers. Initially, A&M thought being lead sharecropper was acceptable. As time passed, this became an unattractive option. Fortunately, Texass was able to 'upgrade' to TCU and West Virginia.
The Lost
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I think, gentle Texass fans, that A&M headed for the SEC out of a desire to be part of a conference of equals. Texass does not want a conference of equals. They want to own a plantation complete with sharecroppers. Initially, A&M thought being lead sharecropper was acceptable. As time passed, this became an unattractive option. Fortunately, Texass was able to 'upgrade' to TCU and West Virginia.


Completely disagree with this... A&Ms voting history completely disagrees with this... A&M just wanted to get away from Texas shadow, start over and rebrand...
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Texas A&M did vote for unequal revenue sharing. To suggest otherwise is not true. What are you disagreeing with?



I'm disagreeing with your opinion that THE reason we left the Big 12 and went to the SEC is because of unequal revenue sharing. We left because the SEC is a much better conference. Better coaches, better players, more fans, more tv sets, more money, more national titles in the bcs era, better stadiums, just a better conference period. We left a girl who was a 7 for a girl who is a 10. How hard is it for you to understand why we left?
JeffHamilton82
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A&M just wanted to get away from Texas shadow, start over and rebrand...



We could have gone to the Big East, ACC or even the Sunbelt and accomplished that. Leaving tu is a benefit, but it's not why we made the move. As stated, we moved because the SEC is the best conference. When that opportunity comes along, you take it!
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ccatag
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I just want to thank Mr Potter, I mean deloss dodds and the longhorn network (by the way, how are those subscriptions going?)for their substantial part in the decision by the Aggies to move to the SEC!
This could not have worked out any better. The Aggies go to a stable, welcoming, more powerful, and equal conference (the Best in the land) ... while the sips stay in a damaged, devalued, unstable conference.
Thank you longhoirn network and Mr Potter!
Indignitas
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See more on Know Your Meme
The Chicken Ranch
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I think there has been strong underlying support to move us to the SEC since Arkansas left. We were unable to pull the trigger in the early 90s and later when the SWC imploded. But this desire has been there, all along, waiting.

The perfect storm happened in 2010. We warned everyone and served notice that we weren't happy, when in reality we were "vetting" the idea with our alumni whether intentional or not.

In 2011, the LHN was the catalyst. We had a perfect set up: an Aggie Governor and a Legislature out of session. It was time to go.

Say all you want, but our eyes have been on the SEC for 20 years and the timing became right.
Kentucky Mustangs
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KingAgWhami

I find it a little unusual that the conference would have governing authority in re-entry into a school's own stadium for ticket holders.

Is this a common thing? This seems quite weird to me. Shouldn't the school be allowed to decide this? What does the conference care?



Maybe this will shed some light on your question :

a) people drink at tailgates
b) college football games are long
c) southern baptists are southern

If you can not bring a case of beer in with you to a game it means that when the game gets tight in the 4th quarter there is some control to the level of drunks getting into serious fights. While some limited liquor gets snuck in, it prevents total oblivion if booze was not limited in some way. remember in the SEC you may have 10,000 - 20,000 traveling fans in your home stadium instead of the 1,000 or so you might get now from Baylor or ISU.

I also think the official no booze policy inside the SEC venues was a deal with the area preachers to ensure they actually had folks in church the next day.
dirtyred
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My alma matter let you come and go during the course of the game. Hell, we mixed bloodies for the security. Of course, admission was free and this was a small, private, very old Southern institution. Not an apples to apples comparison.
RVHorn
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My comments were directed at the op and the comparison to "It's a Wonderful Life."

As noted by others above (thank you, very much), nothing I wrote was untrue. What I wrote was relevant to the op.
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RVHorn

Funny how none of the national media sees it the same way as you do. Oops, I forgot about your business partner ESPN.

Why haven't the television rights been all signed, sealed and delivered?

No way this happens the whorns don't want to get locked in to the Big 12 for 6 years if the LHN doesn't pan out. I wonder how long it will take tu & ou to stab tech & ok state in the back to flee to the PAC? You both have no other options so I am waiting for this to come to fruition.
RVHorn
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I see that you don't contest any of my facts. Enjoy your speculation about how things are seen. My post was concerned with how things were and are.
coshatteag
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What options do the other teams in the tu bishes conference have when the commissioner all but openly placates to dodds and what tu wants. The list of team who left because of the absurd demands by tu is long going back to Arkie. If blow you had balls and left, then you would have lost arkie, A&M an blow u as your historical rivals. It aint us, its you. Get it?
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RVHorn

Do you have any links as proof? You fail to answer any of my questions. Not surprised typical hit and run response from another delusional burnt orange fan. You should have listened to Clay Travis this morning he could have set you straight on several things. Time for you to run back to orangebloods and tell everyone you are being picked on and don't have the answers for me. Maybe DeLoss will read your thread over there and send you free tickets to the Wyoming game.
RVHorn
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Condescension and name-calling are not formidable arguments, MSC-SEC. Aggies on this thread confirm my statements. I addressed your original, absurd claim about A&M being George Bailey and Texas being Potter. Re-read my first post.

I don't care about your diversions, digressions and sidestepping allusions to what you imagine the national media think.

In summation, your original post doesn't hold water.

I look forward to your next epithet, but I won't be responding to it. Enjoy your medicine.
coshatteag
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Self righteous like all horn fans. Keep it up, we dont care. Keep life Spinning and keep telling yourselves that tu football is the heart of football in Texas. And mack can forgive you of your sins, that dodds is second only to warren buffet, that tu academics are ahead of Princeton and Harvard, that Arafat didnt go to school at tu, that the last segregated team to win the mnc wasnt tu, that yall hired African American head coaches before we did in the major sports, that Walter kronkite greets us at the pearlie gates and that bevo has balls.
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rvhorn-

From what I recall, we did vote for unequal revenue sharing when the conference began. However, the leadership we have now is much different, and much better than the leadership we had back then.

However, Loftin changed directions when he wanted to move the big 12 toward equal revenue sharing, but apparently, couldn't get the votes to do so, the longhorns being one of the votes against equal revenue sharing. Before our regents voted to give loftin the power to negotiate with other conferences, we had asked you longhorns and your puppet beebe to allow equal revenue sharing but neither of you would allow it.

To 1,000,000 touchdowns ...and beyond
aggiebones
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When Dodds told us we were going to the Pac-10 I believe we were in the Bailey chair.

Granted by the same time the next year, we took that chair to the side of Potter's head and walked out the door.
Frankly, Dodd's left us no outs but 2. Follow him or go elsewhere. But it takes time to put that together. Apparently exactly 1 year. The trust was totally gone after that move by tu. We had to then go underground to secure the deal. tu already had proven they were dealing off the bottom of the deck. Had to fight fire with fire at that point.
A Name to Remember
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However, Loftin changed directions when he wanted to move the big 12 toward equal revenue sharing, but apparently, couldn't get the votes to do so, the longhorns being one of the votes against equal revenue sharing. Before our regents voted to give loftin the power to negotiate with other conferences, we had asked you longhorns and your puppet beebe to allow equal revenue sharing but neither of you would allow it.

It took three votes in a 10-team conference to overcome the 75-percent-plus required to change revenue sharing as per the Big 12 bylaws, which you can find here.

It wasn't just Texas, and it wasn't just Texas and Oklahoma (Nebraska was gone, but they were complicit, too).

I realize that the poster who wrote this continues to deny that A&M was a vote against equal revenue sharing up until they left the conference, and even Dan Beebe saying it was so isn't enough to persuade him/her.

Such is life.

[This message has been edited by A Name to Remember (edited 2/21/2012 8:58p).]
AggieTFA06
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I didn't know if we really were the 3rd vote against equal revenue distribution, I do know from a past statement that loftin made that he wanted to move the big 12-2 into that direction. He knew that in order to have conference stability

dan beebe's a proven liar (just like deloss dodds), nothing he says can be trusted. You have to be a gullible fool or a longhorn (or both) to actually believe any garbage beebe says.

To 1,000,000 touchdowns ...and beyond
KiptoMilo
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quote:Texas A&M did vote for unequal revenue sharing. To suggest otherwise is not true. What are you disagreeing with?



I'm disagreeing with your opinion that THE reason we left the Big 12 and went to the SEC is because of unequal revenue sharing. We left because the SEC is a much better conference. Better coaches, better players, more fans, more tv sets, more money, more national titles in the bcs era, better stadiums, just a better conference period. We left a girl who was a 7 for a girl who is a 10. How hard is it for you to understand why we left?


I never said any of that opinion so I'm not sure why you made that up. I just echoed the previous post that A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing. Not sure why anyone would get upset about that. It's the truth.

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The list of team who left because of the absurd demands by tu is long going back to Arkie.


What specifically were the demands that Texas made to cause Arkansas to leave the conference? Since you made the claim, you can surely provide the information.

[This message has been edited by KiptoMilo (edited 2/21/2012 9:52p).]
ROY88
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back to the re-entry of the stadium
@kyle you can get a pass back into the stadium before halftime but not after halftime

So I guess that will be changing next year at Kyle

& on revenue sharing ags need to ST*U we felt we deserved a bigger piece of the pie than BU and TCEH
& made sure we got a bigger piece of pie
to argue otherwise makes us look stupid
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