Brock Landers
  |   posted 11:06a, 10/26/09   
Discuss.
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Aggie0529
 |  posted 11:11a, 10/26/09
better pro? hes already a better QB than cart
you trade teams and JJ is already holding a Heisman right now.
He will be a top 5 draft pick next year. McCoy is a system QB
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TennAg
| posted 11:14a, 10/26/09
Hard to say. I think JJ still developing the technique of a pro style qb. He needs to work on mechanics and reads. That's hard to do though without a reliable pocket and timeframe of protection to work with.
He needs to step into throws, speed up release, and tighten up his ball. Of course when he runs he needs to hang on a little better too. I think he's a great leader and person which is huge when betting on your franchise QB.
He's probably in the top 3 of QB's we've ever had.
He's an incredible talent and I'd definitely take him on as a two where he could learn for 2 or 3 years off the field like the oilers did with McNair.
[This message has been edited by TennAg (edited 10/26/2009 11:15a).]
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@Texas.edu
| posted 11:16a, 10/26/09
I'd honestly say that neither will do well in the pros. JJ has a weird delivery and it would be harder to make better passes like that in the pros. Colt just simply doesn't have size or strength with him. He has been wonderful at Texas, but he will be drafted too high and will severely underachieve I believe
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Bird93
  | posted 11:18a, 10/26/09
Tap the brakes. Current play does not equate to NFL success (i.e. Reggie vs. Vince).
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dpg2006
| posted 11:19a, 10/26/09
I don't think that either will be a good pro. Tack on Bradford to that list as well.
Case Keenum at Houston is probably the best pro quality QB that I have seen this year. Jevan Sneed and Greg McElroy can make the throws, but both are too inconsistent.
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No Spin Ag
 | posted 11:19a, 10/26/09
Easily he'll be better. He can handle adversity way better than cart can and can only get better while McCoy has pretty much reached his peak at this level.
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benMath08
  |  posted 11:20a, 10/26/09
He could start for the Raiders right now
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FPS Doug
|  posted 11:24a, 10/26/09
quote:
He will be a top 5 draft pick next year.
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TIGOL97
| posted 11:24a, 10/26/09
I doubt Colt will get drafted very high. I actually kind of like the guy but the NFL is not for him. As for JJ, I can't see him playing anywhere. UFL maybe? There are a lot of Big XII guys playing there.
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Brock Landers
| posted 11:27a, 10/26/09
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As for JJ, I can't see him playing anywhere.
He's at least as good as McGee, and he's in the league.
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TIGOL97
| posted 11:29a, 10/26/09
So is Black Jesus Vince Young™
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RVHorn
| posted 11:31a, 10/26/09
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He can handle adversity way better than cart can
Huh? Down by 28 to Tech a few years ago, Colt brought the team back. Last year at Tech, after a poor first half, he brought the team back and put us in the lead with about 90 seconds to go in the game.
He's led many fourth quarter comebacks including against OU last year and OSU the year before.
I don't know how either QB will do in the pros and don't much care. Some of you have taken to looking ahead to the pros because you don't have much to crow about when your best players are in college.
After the big victory in Lubbock, it seems like you would return your focus to the college years. You've got another year of Johnson. Enjoy it.
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Brock Landers
| posted 11:32a, 10/26/09
VY is in the league...for now. JJ is a better passer than VY, and much smarter (then again, so is my boot, so that's not saying much). But, this thread is not about JJ v. VY.
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RodTidwell
| posted 11:32a, 10/26/09
JJ may play in the NFL but it will not be as a QB unless it is wildcat type formation. Colt will be no better than a 3rd or 2nd string QB.
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MouthBQ98
| posted 11:34a, 10/26/09
Colt is a good to very good college QB. He has some NFL potential because he can make throws and makes good decisions more often than not, but right now he's throwing a lot of ints, and is fortunate to be surrounded by superb talent.
[This message has been edited by MouthBQ98 (edited 10/26/2009 11:35a).]
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FTAggies
|  posted 11:36a, 10/26/09
honestly this hypothetical is stupid, no aggie qb will make it in the nfl as a starter, not for a long time. QB in the nfl is an entirely different animal, just look at some of the throws, they require timing and extreme accuracy, jerrod still throws lame duck wobbly passes, protect him for a season where he makes throws from within a pocket and you might get there, but considering our history the answer is no.
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Copey
| posted 11:38a, 10/26/09
You're not allowed to eat PB and J sandwiches at halftime in the NFL.
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JDW1998
| posted 11:40a, 10/26/09
Sherm got McGee drafted in the 4th Round.
Methinks Sherm will get JJ drafted in the 3rd.
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circa87
| posted 11:41a, 10/26/09
lol at your draft predictions
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RodTidwell
| posted 11:44a, 10/26/09
Methinks JJ goes undrafted as a QB. He may get drafted as wideout.
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Frok
| posted 11:45a, 10/26/09
Colt is better than JJ at this point. The maroon glasses are thick today.
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Brock Landers
| posted 11:49a, 10/26/09
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Colt is better than JJ at this point.
Point taken, but the question was about future career, implying as assessment of potential.
I just saw ESPN had Colt as the 4th QB taken.
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Aggie
| posted 11:53a, 10/26/09
To the poster who said jj will be a top 5 draft pick.....crack is whack
And the scouts like colt...he has great tools, arm strength, makes good decisions,feet work, accuracy...but you can never tell if a college qb is going to make it in the NFL untill he actually plays the game.
Right now I would say that colt will get that chance..what he does with it we will see.
I don't see jj being a qb at the next level
Right now I would say Case Keenum and Jimmy Clausen are the top college qb with NFL potential
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AlexNguyen
| posted 11:54a, 10/26/09
It's an odd question. Consider Stephen McGee vs. VY. McGee might very well prove out to be the better NFL QB, but it's VY hands down in college.
I'm a huge college football fan. I spend my Sundays watching Tivo'ed college games from the day before instead of watching any pro football. I'm happy if my team's players do well in the NFL, but to be brutally honest, it's about the farthest thing from my mind most of the time. I'd take a Graham Harrell-like college career over a Matt Cassell career any day.
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KRamp96
| posted 11:55a, 10/26/09
IMO, I think anyone who takes McCoy in the draft thinking he's going to be a quality starting QB in the NFL is going to be disappointed. There's a reason why McCoy throws 35 7-yard curl routes per game. When they've turned him loose in the past he's been an interception machine.
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TIGOL97
| posted 11:57a, 10/26/09
Jimmy Clausen, really? He seemed like such a goofball starting out I would have never guessed people would really think he is NFL quality now. I really have no clue how he has played since he was 18 - is he that good?
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tifire85
| posted 12:04p, 10/26/09
You guys realize that when Jerrod has time to throw he's one of the most accurate passers in the country, right? He has the arm strength to make all the NFL throws. I wish people would stop lumping him in with Vince Young because he happens to be able to run a bit when pressured and is big and black.
Scouts will probably downgrade him because of his release but they'll like his intelligence, size, arm strength, and accuracy. The guy you should be comparing him to is Josh Freeman.
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NatChamps1939
 | posted 12:05p, 10/26/09
HE CANNOT THROW A SPIRAL PEOPLE AND HAS NO VELOCITY ON HIS THROWS! CAN WE ALL COME BACK TO EARTH AND REALIZE JJ IS NOT THE ANSWER AND WILL BE A RECIEVER IN THE NFL.
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claym711
| posted 12:07p, 10/26/09
haha. Some of you are way way out there on both sides.
I will be right, so listen:
Jerrod will not be drafted as a WR
Jerrod will get a shot in the NFL as a QB, either being drafted or as a free agent. Right now I am inclined to suggest that he will get drafted.
His delivery is not typical and he does not have a lot of rpms on his ball, but he can make every throw on the field, is a good leader, and has already shown that he can handle a pro offense with a bad line.
So far this year, has 2,364 total yards with 22 TDs and 5 Turnovers. (I can tell you for sure that 2 of the ints in the KState game were WR error on read routes, and the fumbles were not exactly his fault).
For comparison:
Teabow has 1,625 yards with 14 TDs and 4 ints (not sure on fumbles)
McCoy has 1910 yards with 15 TDs and 8 ints
Mallet has 1862 yards with 16 TDs and 3 ints
Snead has 1560 yards with 15 TDs and 11 ints
Obviously numbers are not everything, but Jerrod has some of the best in the country playing in a pro style offense behind an average offensive line.
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chjoak
| posted 12:07p, 10/26/09
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Hard to say. I think JJ still developing the technique of a pro style qb. He needs to work on mechanics and reads. That's hard to do though without a reliable pocket and timeframe of protection to work with.
He needs to step into throws, speed up release, and tighten up his ball. Of course when he runs he needs to hang on a little better too. I think he's a great leader and person which is huge when betting on your franchise QB.
What he said.
I think Colt has pretty much reached his potential. He could have a decent NFL career but I don't really see him as starter quality NFL QB.
JJ has potential to be a solid to good NFL QB but he needs to work on a few things. He already has the size & arm strength but his technique and reads are rough. Sherm & staff need to working with him to fix his issues or he will need to be drafted by a team willing to give him a couple years to work out his hitches and speed up the delivery.
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RVHorn
| posted 12:07p, 10/26/09
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When they've turned him loose in the past he's been an interception machine.
Actually, he does well throwing downfield. The interceptions and near interceptions were on plays where DBs were jumping the short routes that our OC calls to often and too predictably.
If you look at the TDs against Mizzou, Colt is great. Even the throw to Chiles which seemed a touch underthrown was perfect because Colt was accounting for the safety breaking on the play further downfield.
Okay, I've done my quota of Colt defense for the day.
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weatherford
| posted 12:09p, 10/26/09
So much trolling on texags these days.
Last week, everyone was calling for JJs head. They wanted the backup. He had alot of turnovers. Didn't score a point until it didn't matter.
Now this week, he is a better college QB and better NFL player than a QB that will have more wins than any other QB in history? Better passing pct than anyone in history? Beat OU 3 times? #2 in the Heisman? has lost 1 game in 2 years?
You guys love crack
[This message has been edited by emergent_sea (edited 10/26/2009 12:09p).]
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NatChamps1939
| posted 12:12p, 10/26/09
Guys remember alot of his numbers come agains High School quality teams. Look at his numbers agains Arkansas and Big 12 Schools. Lets bring the comparision to Tebow and Colt down.
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Jeff George
| posted 12:12p, 10/26/09
Good college QB =/= good NFL QB. The examples are too long to list. Matt Ryan is thriving, while Matt Leinart holds down the bench. The NFL values game managers. They don't value guys who depend on their legs, and they don't necessarily value guys who are extremely accurate (see Stafford, Matt).
Bradford's going to be a backup somewhere, but his injury seems to have really damaged his stock. I doubt Colt or JJ (or Tebow, for that matter) have what the NFL is looking for.
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