A local sports radio station here in Portland had an NFL scout on as a guest yesterday to talk about the Pac12. During the interview the scout ranked the conferences in order of overall future NFL talent.

1. SEC ("By far, the conference with the most NFL talent. None of the other conferences are even close.")

2. PAC12 ("A consistent producer of NFL talent at every position. Everyone knows about the Pac12's quarterbacks, receivers, running backs, and defensive backs. But this league consistently produces quality NFL starters at linebacker and defensive linemen, too, which the rest of the country doesn't usually think of when it thinks of the Pac12.")

3. Big1G ("Overall, the first three rounds of NFL draftable talent in the Big10 has declined quite a bit. We think it is because of turmoil and coaching changes. But it is still a league with plenty of future NFL players. We think it will bounce back, talent-wise, as things settle down and stabilize at Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.")

4. ACC ("Florida State and Clemson are loaded. Vtech and Miami have fallen off some.")

5. The Big12 ("What has happened in that league is shocking. Losing Texas A&M and Nebraska obviously hurt the overall pool of draftable talent, but we didn't expect Texas and Oklahoma to drop off the way they have. Those two programs have nowhere near the future NFL prospects on campus today that they had five years ago. The whole league is just not as talented anymore, especially in the numbers of players we project as players who will be drafted in the first three rounds.")

You can probably guess what happened later in the show after the radio hosts had finished interviewing the scout and the scout had left. Two separate sip callers called in and disputed the scout's assessment of the Big12 and the talent on the sip roster.

Even in Oregon, sips gotta be sips.

Yeah, but no conference has as many 7th rounds picks per a team as the Big12. You don't measure how good you are by playing the best. You measure it by how well you play against mediocrity every week

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The Big12 is headed toward Iowa State and Kansas State being competitive, routinely.

So responds the t-shirt Texas Horns fan, "The scout doesn't know talent if it bit him on the rear. Geoff Ketchum and Bobby Burton tell us the opposite is true as talent is just dying to wear burnt-orange jerseys. Loser scout dude!"

[This message has been edited by Ft Worth Ag (edited 8/1/2013 3:13p).]

Top heavy sec...even in the draft

The Big 12 has more players available for FA signings so that shows from top to bottom they have more talent than the SEC.

cj: sorry, no. I heard it on an a.m. radio. Look at my class year. I'm an olds. Even Caveman Lawyer is younger than me.

ft. worth ag: these 2 sips repeated the usual sip & b12 spin and smack. "Mack had a young team last season", "texas was rebuilding", "watch out for texas this year!", "the big12 had 9 bowl teams last year", "we curb-stomped SC in 2005", and "Oregon's been good for 5 years, but it won't last".

One sip caller said he hopes Texas faces Oregon in the BCS title game this year. One of the radio show's hosts responded, "Wouldn't you have to win your conference first? And hope that the top 6 teams in the SEC all lose at least 2 games?"

Needless to say, a bunch of local callers called in and texted, and ripped the sips and b12 to pieces.

If we were still in the BDF we'd be defending it as well...defending your own is human nature.

But we're NOT....therefore it's funny as ****!

How can anyone with half a brain actually dispute what an NFL SCOUT says about how much NFL TALENT teams/conferences have? He's ONE OF THE GUYS MAKING THE DECISIONS, yet someone thinks their opinion is somehow more educated on the matter? Whether the scout is right or not, he'll end up being right no matter what because that's exactly what the numbers are going to show after the drafts are done. So, no matter what, the Big 12 will have fewer players drafted, and fewer players drafted in the top rounds, than any of the others, and therefore will have fewer "draftworthy" players by definition.

"Half a brain"??

Now, now....you're giving these BDFers WAAAY too much credit, don't you think?