Traveling in Europe after graduation

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So some buddies and I are planning a little Europe excursion starting in May and I thought I would consult the power of TexAgs for some travel advice.

Places we are probably going: London, Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Switzerland, Northern Italy, Barcelona, Paris

Places we might go: Rome, Madrid, Vienna, Athens, Reykjavik, Munich

I'm looking to be overseas for 5-6 weeks. Some of that time may be me traveling alone, which I'm nervous but very excited about at the same time. Any advice on places to go? Advice on traveling alone? How to meet people? Travel tips? Especially regarding how to get around in Europe. My travel agent has recommended getting a Eurail pass but my buddies have told me about some VERY cheap airlines.

TIA
defroach
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Meet people? Stay in a hostel
Travel Agent? Why???? What good is that?
5-6 weeks. Good amount of time but you seen to have places literally everywhere. You won't likely be able to go to every city that is out of the way (Spain/Italy/Athens)
Rejkavik is out. Don't even bother thinking about it. Munich should be in. Throw in Krakow and Budapest.
Do trains. The low budget flights will restrict you way too much. You'll be forced to leave wether you like it out not. The great thing about 6 weeks is having no set schedule and just going without having agendas. Flights ruin that. Overnight them - save on hostels by this.





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Hoyt Ag
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Agree with defroach. I would maybe rethink the cities you want to visit, unless you just like being rushed. With 6 weeks, no more than 6 or 8 cities would be my plan. And to add to that, I would be plotting a course that I could do mostly by train, if not all of it. I hate flying within a trip in Europe. I prefer taking the train, overnight trains are a great way to cover some ground at a cheap cost. We have met a ton of people and have gotten great advice. Hostels are the way to go to meet others like yourself. Defintely get Budapest on the list. Your list of cities now is a lot of stay 3 days, fly, stay 3 days, fly, etc. You have a great list, but logistics would just not be a lot of fun. I did a long trip like this after HS and ugrad and basically started at one end of Europe and worked my way to the other side. Worked out great not having to hop all over the grid.

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P.C. Principal
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Thanks! Any recommendation for places to go that are a little off the beaten path?
defroach
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Nowhere in Western Europe is off the beaten path. If you want that, you gotta go to far east Europe. Plus, it'll be a pain to do as you won't have a car and are limited by where you can easily get to. I'd stay stick to the main cities and take recommendations from hostels on where to go for day trips.
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For something off the beaten path, I recommend Rothenburg, Germany. It is probably the best-preserved Medieval town in all of Europe and one of the few places in Germany that wasn't destroyed in WW II. We stayed in a hotel there that was built in the 1400s. If you go, be sure to take the Night Watchman's tour and visit their museum with armor going back more than 1000 years.

Also, I've been to 5 continents and the most impressive place I've ever seen was Pompeii.
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Switzerland: A little ways south of Interlaken is the town of Lauterbrunnen. It's a small town nestled in a valley with sheer cliffs on either side. Plenty of hiking available, a lot of people go to this area to base jump, skydive, hang glide and stuff like that. You'll feel like you're standing in a postcard the entire time, it's that beautiful. A lot of the lodging and food is very pricey, but there are hostels and cheap food to be found. Trust me, you won't forget Lauterbrunnen.



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If you're looking for wilderness, Switzerland, Southern Germany, or Austria can give you some good options. I've heard Switzerland is beautiful but expensive, especially if you're in any of the cities or touristy areas.

Munich is my favorite city that I've visited so far, so I may be biased, but I say you have to go there. Stay at the Wombat hostel if you can. I've heard great things but didn't book early enough when I was there. Also, you have to check out Neuschwanstein Castle. It's quite possibly the most picturesque castle in the world. You could probably go through there on your way south to Italy or head West to Lake Constance. You may not be in the middle of nowhere with no cell reception, but you can probably get an "off the beaten path" feel around there if you look hard enough for it.

General Tips:
If you have a smart phone with wifi, make sure it's unlocked and you'll be able to swap SIM cards wherever you go just in case you need to call someone. Also, you'll be able to use that to check email/facebook whenever you have wifi.

Use a hostel website to book hostels. You should be able to find reasonable rates in every city you go, but some will be more expensive than others. Hostel's aren't glamorous, but they'll give you a place to stay & store your bag while you're off in the city so that you can see more places. If you're in a group of 4, you can probably take a whole 4-bed room to yourselvese, which will be pretty nice. Make sure you bring your own towel because many hostels will charge you to rent one. Also, most hostels will have a safe where you can lock up your passport and anything else smaller than a piece of paper. Some people worry about safety in a hostel (ie, the horror films), but I've stayed in hostels all over Europe & the Middle East & Sri Lanka and never had a bad experience. I still wouldn't bring a laptop & leave it in my bag or anything like that.

If you end up traveling alone, you can still have a good time. You'll want to be a little more cautious, but there are typically fellow travelers in a lot of the places that you'll be that wouldn't mind sharing a conversation or a meal or whatever. I did Rome alone and was alone for bits of Dublin & Cardiff without any issue.

Also, if you ever get homesick, go to an Irish pub. For some reason, there have always been Americans in every Irish pub I've ever gone to.

dcAg
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I've traveled through Italy by myself and spent a week in Paris alone. Also went to the Greek Islands by myself, long story.
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For something off the beaten path, I recommend Rothenburg, Germany.


You mean a town that comes up in every thread on this forum and is in every american travel book that there is .. yeah "off the beaten path" .. not so much.

If english is spoken or they take anything other than cash .. you are planted right on the beaten path. As defroach said .. there is NOTHING in western europe that is really off the beaten path .. and via your list of cities you are interested in seeing touristy stuff .. so just roll with that.
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Six weeks is a good amount of time, but I would try not to over do it. If you're having to take trains every few days then you are losing a lot of vacation time. My advice would be to focus in on two or three countries. If you try to see it all, then you will end up not seeing much.

I have been all over Europe and Italy is by far my favorite country. I think it is worth two full weeks of your trip AT LEAST. You could do Italy, Switzerland, and France. Or maybe, Spain, France, and Italy....something like that. You need to give yourself at least 4 full days for the major cities (Rome, Paris, etc) and plenty of time for the countryside.
defroach
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I probably come from a different view of things than a lot of people, but I really like the 3 nights in a city and move on. Trains do take time, but that is why you use overnight ones. You don't lose much time there and can get long distances. You can easily go big city to big city. I'm guessing he is around 22 and is looking for some beer and ladies....not a more relaxed trip to see everything. You'll get to see a lot of the capitals this way but you do miss the smaller towns. At 18, I did this exact trip and that is exactly how I did it and I loved the trip. Hell, all through my 20s, I have done that sort of trip and loved them. I also have seen a lot of the smaller areas when I traveled with my family...but at my age, I enjoyed the quick city stops and move on. But I may just be ADD with my traveling....
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These people saying there is NOTHING in Western Europe "off the beaten" path are over exaggerating. Even in a busy tourist hub like Rome there are places that the vast majority of tourists either aren't aware of or don't take the trouble to visit. Ostia, for instance, a place of very well preserved Roman ruins only a short distance away from Rome...but when my wife and I were there we had the run of the site virtually to ourselves, very few other tourists around.

It comes down to doing your research and venturing to places that are somewhat inconvenient.
defroach
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Sure...there are less visited places. Obviously the coliseum is going to be packed while other places arent as crowded. But when you are going around by train or plane, you are unlikely to go to some of those places because they are a pain without a car. When I hear off the beaten path, I think of places with no tourists or minimal tourists. Usually a city and not just a specific site that you'll be at for an hour or so. There are lots of local only restaurants in every city as well...

Off the beaten path would be some small town in the Armenian countryside that only has one place to stay and some old castles where no one speaks English. No where in Western Europe really meets that criteria. But you can define its different way than me, that is fine, but I don't consider anywhere in Rome really off the beaten path.
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Keep in mind that the Olympics are going to be in London this summer and the UK is going to be crowded and expensive as a result. Probably best to avoid completely.
defroach
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Can't agree more with that ^^^^ regardless if it is a month before or after...I would just stay away.
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I'm interning in London for 6 weeks this summer and I'm expecting to go broke by the end. Luckily my room is already taken car of.

I would suggest skipping London also.
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Haha yes I am 22 and we will definitely be looking for beer and ladies, but I'm also a very adventurous person who will definitely want to do a ton of outdoor activities and see the famous historic landmarks.

We'll be spending a considerable amount of time in Germany so I'm sure we'll get some beer drinking in then. We also want to hit up the French and/or Italian wine country.

As far as my "off the beaten path" question. We were just looking to go to a few places that aren't so touristy. Nothing wrong with going to the big ones (London, Paris, Rome), but we wanted to branch out a little bit too Maybe Stockholm, Oslo, or Zagreb for a weekend trip? We would probably get a cheap-ass RyanAir flight.


To those who advised against trying to see too many places- I definitely understand where you're coming from. We haven't decided how long we are staying in each place, but we've already cut out some places we wanted to go just because it's too much trouble (Dublin, Reykjavik, Athens). We're starting in London (in mid-May, so well before the Olympics) then working our way around Europe. Probably won't be in London too long because everything costs an arm and a leg there.

I think taking trains is fun, much better than flying everywhere, so I don't really consider that time wasted traveling. And I want to do overnight trains whenever possible just to be efficient with our time and money.

Anyway, we're still planning the bulk of the trip. We're flying into London and out of Barcelona, so we're working our way to Spain. So far, looks like we'll be hitting (in an order like this, NOT including side trips to smaller towns)...

London
Paris
Brussels
Amsterdam
Berlin
Munich
Prague
Budapest
Northern Italy
Zurich
Barcelona

Some of these places may be cut out. For example, we may skip Belgium on the way to the Netherlands. Also, we haven't decided if we'll hit Rome, just because it's a little out of the way. If we do, we may try to get a cheap flight there for a weekend. It's okay, I've been there before and seen everything.


Appreciate the advice, guys!
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My friends and I had a crazy time in Budapest. There is lots of trouble to get into there. Hahahaha

It is also a beautiful city!
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I can confirm that Budapest is a fun city. It is the birthplace of my parents. If you are there in the Summer, I recommend you spending a day or two at Lake Balaton (Our Summer home was in the city of Balatonfured). Was a Party every night with lots of young people.

On the way to Northern Italy, I recommend you go through Slovenia if you have the extra time.

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Skip Brussels for Bruge
Hoyt Ag
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"Skip Brussels for Bruge"
Absolutely.

Good list. Can do a lot of it via trains. I would add a stop in Vienna (or Bratislava or Brno) between Prague and Budapest, otherwise you are looking at a LONG train ride (done it and it sucks). I think a train from Budapest to Trieste, then Venice, then Turin, then Marseille, then Barcelona would be ideal.

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Skip Berlin and Zurich. Lots of better options and Berlin is somewhat off your path.

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I'd say cut Brussels and Amsterdam but keep Berlin on the list. Amsterdam is good for two things: hookers and weed. If you're not into either of things (I wasnt) then skip it cause theres not much else to do there unless you really want to see Anne Franks place or the Van Gogh museum. If you're 22 and call yourself the Italion Stallion then probably not. Otherwise the city sucks. Like everything else in life, it's all about what you want to do.

I spent a lot of time traveling in Europe in my 20's (about 3.5 years worth - granted this was several years ago) here's what I would recommend.

Must sees (maybe not all in one 5-6 week trip)
Prague - cant miss this one no matter what, Munich, Budapest, One of either Salzburg or Innsbruck (huge university town = many college age people; same as Krakow), Barcelona, Nice, Florence, Rome, Stockholm, London ( but like others said, steer clear close to the Olympics)

Nice to see if you have time and nothing better to do:
Berlin - crazy club scene. It's all about the underground clubs. Theyll take over an abandoned building and turn it into a club for a week to a month then shut it down and move somewhere else. You'll have to ask the locals where to go cause it constantly changes, but it's crazy to see.
Paris - if you are in the area then do it, otherwise don't waste your time. Just know that someday you'll get married and you'll be back to fulfil your duty as a husband to take your wife to Paris.
Vienna
Any beach in Croatia
Tallinn
Helsinki ( great jump off point to Russia)
Athens/Greek isles
Anywhere in Switzerland
Madrid
Luxembourg - cool city/state and yet he American WWII cemeteary where Patton is buried is amazing

Don't waste your time:
Oslo
Amsterdam ( I know this makes a lot of people's "must see" list, but seriously the place is a ****hole)
Copenhagen ( I spent 6-7 weeks here and still never really found anything fun to do - and it's outrageously expensive)

off the beaten path:
Karlovy Vary, Czech ( it's where they filmed the casino scenes in Casino Royale. They said it was Montenegro in the movie, but it was really this city in Czech. Awesome city - used to be a Soviet spa resort)
Czesky Krumlov
Lille, France
Leuven, Belgium - as a 22 year old male you'll thank me later


If you're there at the right time, Pamplona s really cool for the running of the bulls, but you'll have to sell your firstborn to get a hotel room. We went and ran without getting a room, so it can be done, but just know beforehand what you're getting into.

One key to finding out what is going on in a city or what the hot bar/clubs area hen you don't know anything about the place.... Find the local Irish Pub and start there. They'll speak (kind of ) English, and they'll know all the local hotspots and will set you straight.

If I think of more later I'll add to this
P.C. Principal
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Thanks tlittle. That info really does help.

My friends kinda have the "Sure, I guess" attitude toward visiting Amsterdam, so if we were to cut that out I dont think anyone would be upset. But the main reason it's on our list is because we'll be heading East from London/Paris and thought we'd sorta be hitting the Netherlands anyway. Paris is only a maybe as well. It's not really my scene. I just loved the food and the wine when I was last there.

Berlin and Munich are probably at the top of our list in terms of priority. I've only spent a little bit of time in Germany but LOVED it. And we want to spend a good amount of time in the country. Prague is toward the top too. So it's good to hear from other sources that it SHOULD be up there. We are for sure hitting London and Barca. Nice and Florence are likely.

As far as places that are a little out of the way (Rome, Stockholm, Athens), we're hoping we can find a weekend (or weekdays?) to get a cheap flight to one of these places. it really depends on what we can find and when. I've been to Rome and I really want to see Scandinavia, so Stockholm is an attractive option. I also hope to hit Croatia. Went there with the family in 2010 and thought it was amazing. But if it's too hard we won't hit it.

Also, I did a quick wikipedia search for Leuven, and it definitely sounds like we would like it.

Thanks again and please let me know if anything else pops into your head!
bqaggie86
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One thing you might consider is a caravan (rv). You aren't tied to an itinerary and can stop wherever you want to spend the night. I wouldn't do it for the entire trip but you could do it for a couple of weeks. I think some of the chains will let you pick up in one place and drop off in another.
defroach
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An rv would be ridiculously expensive compared to hostels...
bqaggie86
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An rv would be ridiculously expensive compared to hostels...

But cheaper than a car and hotel room. Plus no need for reservations and the ability to fix some of your own meals will reduce your total cost even more.
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At 22 and touring Europe....hostels are the way to go. RVs leave you out of cities and meeting people. You can get to further out sites...sure, but you won't be saving on the cost of hostel beds....
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Saying Paris and Switzerland are "nice if you have the time" is ridiculous. Those are top 3 kind of places (at least for me when I backpacked). Pamplona being the other. I have a long email that I always send out to people that ask this question. I'll pull it out in a second.
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Top 10 Favorite places visited in order:
1) Interlaken, Switzerland
2) Pamplona
3) Paris
4) Rome
5) Normandy
6) Barcelona
7) Florence
8) Amsterdam
9) Cinque Terra (San Sebastian is similar in Spain and maybe more convenient)
9) Munich/Dachau/Neuschwanstein
10) Ios, Greece

Top 10 Places I visited that I wish I would have skipped in order of suckiness:
1) Lyon, France
2) Brussels, Belgium
3) Romantic Road in Germany (Rottenburg, etc.)
4) Random small towns in Italy
5) Athens
6) Milan
7) Berlin
8) Pisa
9) Mykonos, Greece
10) Nice

Top 10 places I didn't go that I really wish I would have:
1) Stockholm
2) Any of Southern Spain (Madrid, Sevilla, etc)
3) Lucerne, Switzerland
4) Prague
5) Dubrovnik, Czech
6) Vienna
7) Copenhagen
8) London
9) Lisbon
10) Bordeaux

Top 50 Random things I wish I would have known or learned along the way:

1) Italian and Spanish trains and planes are always late. Always.
2) German and Swiss trains are always on time. Always.
3) The two above facts can result in conflict
4) Cheap flights abound and can save time on trains (RyanAir, Easy Jet, etc.). Trust me; the joy of train riding wears off real, real fast.
5) Always double check the exact location of hotels and hostels before you book it. On the website, everything is "located walking distance from the city center" or something. In reality, few are. http://www.famoushostels.com/ is a good place to start. Hostels charge per person/bed. In a pinch (as in it's fully booked), you and your girl can share a single bed.
6) Plan on spending a lot in Interlaken... follow up point: mountain biking in the Swiss Alps is way harder than you want to bother with
7) Il Latini in Florence is the best restaurant I've ever been to. It's got two seating times. Get there early. Dan Les Noir in Paris is pretty cool, too.
8) Les Caveau des Obliques is a great, authentic Parisian hangout
9) Don't trust anyone that asks you with an accent if you speak English. They're always gypsies looking to swindle you.
10) There's an underground entry to the Louvre. Speaking of which, there's free admission to the Louvre one day a month. Google to find out.
11) Don't follow the crowds at the Vatican. There are ways to avoid the crowds that will save you like 2 hours of wait time. Again, google to find out.
12) Don't try and do Paris in like 1 or 2 days. That city is freaking incredible and has way more than you could possibly handle in a short amount of time. So, be efficient with the sight seeing and take a guided tour like Mike's Fat Tire Bike Tours to get all the obligatory sights out of the way.
13) The farther south you go in Europe, the shadier and cheaper it can get.
14) It's fairly cool in Northern Europe the entire year. The weather in Paris is a good 15 degrees cooler than here. Dress accordingly.
15) Don't buy souvenirs there unless it REALLY is going to be hard to get once you get back. So, for example, instead of buying wooden shoes and a German Christmas tree over there, a friend bought me one on the internet when we got back. It was way cheaper and I didn't have to lug it around and risk it getting damaged. I was grateful.
16) Shopping in grocery stores is fun. Buy a bunch of stuff and then google it when you get back. Haha, I had a good time finding out that I had eaten horse meat and washed with lotion.
17) You might think that visiting small towns will allow you to see the real side of Europe, but you're wrong. It's boring and you'll end up with nothing to do and no one to talk to.
18) It's way more fun to stay in hostels than hotels, because you get to interact with foreigners. Force yourself to get brave and make friends with those new folks right away when you get there so you can have people to do stuff with and talk to.
19) There are guided tours and audio devices at most museums. It sucks just walking around them and not knowing what you're looking at. Let's be honest, though. You're not going to care about some random picture you saw at a little museum once you get back (even though you think you will at the time) So, either buy the guided tour or don't even bother going.
20) Another non-touristy thing to do is going to a orchestra performance at Saint Chapelle in Paris. A girl will think this is freaking cool if you pull this on her.
21) Students get discounts everywhere.
22) La Sagrada Familia has to be seen
23) Prices in the north are awful. Buy little there.
24) Some banks make deals with international banks to give you free ATM withdrawls. Bank of America had the most deals when I went last. It might be worth opening an account there so you can pull out of ATMs.
25) Tell your banks you're traveling abroad
26) Communicating with America stinks. Don't use your cell phone. Use skype when possible and buy phone cards the rest of the time
27) There's really only so much sight seeing you can do with the "big stuff". After a while, your eyes sort of get numb to seeing the David, the last supper, the mona lisa, etc. etc. (the one exception is the Eifel Tower... that's always amazing). So, I had a heck of a good time taking random, silly tours that seemed stupid at the time but weren't. I toured the Gulpener museum in some small town near Maastricth, Netherlands, went through the catacombs in Paris, toured some chocolate thing in Brussels, the OECD in Paris, an apartment in Barcelona, and some went to a college party in Rome. Those were some of the best times.
28) If you know anyone no matter how remotely in Europe or how stupid the city is, beg them to let them hang out with you. Guides are simply awesome.
29) You and your buddies will undoubtedly get annoyed with each other at some point when you miss a train or it's too hot or you get to a museum too late to go inside. Remember me telling you this and you thinking "it won't happen." It will. Just think back to me telling you to not blow up and blame it on the situation and move on. Kiss and make up.
30) You typically need reservations for overnight train trips, cross country trips, and between some high volume locations. Get them early and know that it's not included in your eurail pass.
31) Greece is really freaking hard to get into and out of. In fact any of the sort of fringe countries are that way.
32) Don't let yourself be lost for more than about 90 seconds. Walk in and ask someone for directions. If the person you're asking is not in a hotel or big restaurant, ask them if they speak English and learn the phrase in the country for "where is ___". Your best bet is just going into a hotel or big restaurant where everyone speaks English.
33) Bring less clothes than you think you need. You'll buy stuff there and you really don't need more than 1 of each item - so like 1 pair of jeans, 1 pair of shorts, 1 long sleeve button up, etc. etc. If you're bringing two of anything, it's a waste
34) There's a cheap retail store in every country you should try to hit. It's Zara or El corte ingles in Spain, H&M in the Netherlands, etc. Figure it out and drop some bucks. You'll feel like a bad-a whenever people say "I like that. Where'd you get it?" and you get to respond "Paris"
35) Like I said, it's fun to buy stuff in grocery stores, but know what they don't have: deodorant, face wash, and powdered drinks. With the amount that you'll be walking, you'll want all three of those things.
36) You'll live off of ice cream at times
37) Rick Steve's knows everything
38) Some countries are just way too expensive to try and be a baller in. So, pick your battles is what I'm saying. Fondue in Switzerland is going to set you back way more than it's worth. The same can be said for basically all of Great Britain, and Scandinavian hotels. I've heard you can live like a king in Eastern Europe for like 8 dollars, though.
39) Try and set up as much as possible before you go over there. Obviously, don't go crazy, but calling up places to set up tours and reservations doesn't kill spontaneity.
40) You'll inevitably under-estimate how long it takes to do... basically everything but especially travel time. So, plan accordingly for that.
41) You'll learn a lot. Treat some of your tours like school time. I honestly kind of wish I would have taken notes on some of that stuff. Like, it was so awesome comparing the way WW2 was depicted in Normandy vs. the concentration camp in Dachau. I can't remember half of it, though.
42) Buy stuff over there that you can't get here. I know it's like an earlier point, but, again, over half the fun of going overseas is getting to remember it.
43) I never look at pictures from anything I do except for the Europe trip.
44) People stand close on trains, smell funny, will ask you for basically anything, hit on your chicks aggressively, and yell when they talk (especially in Southern Europe). I encountered very, very few rude or untrustworthy people over there, though (other than the gypsies). It's not as unsafe as movies or friends would have you believe.
45) Bring your GPS watch and running shoes. You'll feel cool running across country borders
46) Pack nice-ish shoes that don't mind being crumpled.
47) Take overnight night trains whenever possible. It'll save you travel time.
48) Try lots of beer in Belgium/Netherlands. I liked something called sjoes that I've never seen any where else.
49) Try escargot (and other junk you don't think you should try)
50) Homer's tomb is in Ios, the oldest restaurant in the world is in Madrid, the thinker is in some random garden in Paris, etc. etc. Use guide books to find off the beaten spots like these.


Bonus:
The cheapest way to get drunk is to buy 3 dollar bottle of red wine from the grocery store and mixing it with coke. It's called calimoxo in southern Europe and it's delicious. You head to the hostel with that, noodles, and sauce, and offer to share with some of the bunkmates. You follow those steps and you will inevitably meet some girls to make some bad decisions with.



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Also, to the guy that said Amsterdam is only good for getting high and seeing hookers, that's probably true. BUT, going to Europe is about experiences and memories. Walking the red light district after hitting a coffee shop with friends from the hostel is the makings of some once-in-a-lifetime experiences. Amsterdam is pretty far up there, though. I studied in Maastricht which is much farther south. If you're just trying to get stoned and hang out with college girls, then you could at least swing through there. Plus there are a bunch of breweries right by there.



Based on your list of towns:
quote:
London
Paris
Brussels
Amsterdam
Berlin
Munich
Prague
Budapest
Northern Italy
Zurich
Barcelona



I would personally cut out Zurich and Brussels without a doubt, and would think real hard about some of those far eastern spots since you have to make your way all the way back to Barcelona to fly out. All I'm saying is there are TONS of places you could go that are fun and much more convenient to your airports. You might try and get lucky with a cheap flight once you're there, though. I guarantee you that will not regret visiting Interlaken, Paris, and Rome.

... ok, one more thing... Don't you freaking puss out and tell people that you're Canadian because you hear that Americans aren't popular in Europe. Not only that, tell people that you're not just American but TEXAN... and heck yes you ride a horse, shoot handguns, know George W Bush, and wear a 10-gallon hat every day. People will be amazed... plus girls are into it.


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bqaggie86
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Don't eat in Burger King or McDonalds every meal. It is ok to eat there once in a while when you get homesick for a burger though.
careerchange05
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Don't eat in Burger King or McDonalds every meal. It is ok to eat there once in a while when you get homesick for a burger though.



Hah, that's pretty true. I never ate at one of those places I could get back home. However, my buddy and I did love watching MTV Europe whenever we had a TV because it reminded us of home.

As far as food goes, though, what I recommended before about "picking your battles" financially for me meant that of the 21 meals a week, it broke down like this:

7 breakfasts - all free from the hostel
7 lunches - 5 meals of meat/bread/cheese from the grocery store and 2 doner kabobs from a road-side shop
7 dinners - 5 meals of something cheap like frozen pizza or pasta/sauce/tuna fish

That left 2 meals where we'd splurge per week or so. Since we'd averaged about 3-6 dollars per meal the rest of the week, we didn't have a problem dropping 30-50 euros for those other 2.
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I'm moving to Prague in march, it definitely has a lot to offer a group of guys, tons of cheap beer, amazing sights, great history and easy to get around. Stay at the mosaic house hostel in town. I know the owner and has quickly become the best hostel in Prague. Look it up, they have tremendous service and everyone there is around your age. Send me an email at p wilkins at uretekicr dot com if you have any other questions about Prague.
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