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Aggie mindset will have to change, if yall join SEC

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oldbooniehog
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I'm an Arkansas fan, from back in the SWC days.

I've been to two games at Kyle Field as a member of the Marching Razorback band. I was a student at the U of A when Arkansas switched to the SEC.

I know, firsthand, about how things will change for the Aggies if y'all switch conferences. I saw and lived through a conference switch myself.

First, Aggies will have to get over your weird disdain for so-called "t-shirt" fans. Your universe will have to get a lot bigger than just folks who went to A&M if you ever want to compete in the SEC.

Arkansas never had this contempt for "t-shirt fans." A huge segment of Hog fans never went to the University of Arkansas as students. But they are passionate fans of the Hogs because the Hogs are from Arkansas. Plenty of "t-shirt fans" buy tickets and donate money to the Razorback Foundation.

Thousands upon thousands of people who attended smaller colleges in Arkansas, like UCA and Arkansas Tech also consider themselves Razorbacks, not anything else. Being a Razorback fan in Arkansas is cultural. It has nothing to do with where you went to school. It doesn't even matter if you didn't got to school at all.

Have y'all noticed that lots of the schools in the SEC are typically referred to using just the name of the state in which they are located?

If you come to the SEC, you are about to be swamped by legions of people you discount as "t-shirt fans." Hundreds of thousands of Volunteer fans didn't go to the U of Tenn. Hundreds of thousands of Crimson Tide fans didn't go to Alabama. Same for Florida and Georgia. You think those folks aren't passionate and won't show up to jack your jaws ever Saturday because they're just "t-shirt fans?"

Again, in SEC country, being a Georgia fan or an Ole Miss fan is more a cultural thing, not an allegiance to a specific school. It's in the blood. It's a tribal identification based on geography and family.

I'll bet that a lot of Aggie disdain against "t-shirt fans" is just a reaction against Texas Longhorn fans, because people just say the name of the state to indicate the Longhorns.

You'll have to let go of your irrational hatred of Texas, at least some of it.

C'mon, the line "Goodbye to Texas University" is in the Aggie War Hymn. Y'all cannot tell me that you don't have an irrational, deep-seated hatred for Texas. You cannot tell me "Oh, they're just our biggest rival."

You express your hatred for exactly one school in the Aggie War Hymn. Texas University.

But I understand more than fans of most schools would, because Arkansas held a deep-seated irrational hatred for Texas, too. I grew up hating the Whorns because they were the burnt-orange villains of my childhood. They were (and still are) evil, in my worldview. Burn, Texas, Burn is all I have to say about the Whorns.

We still do hate Texas. But not nearly like we used to. It's just mostly the folks old enough to remember when we were in the SWC with Texas. Hardly anyone younger than 25 remembers it. Not one single person playing football for Arkansas was even born the last time the Hogs played the Whorns in a conference football game.

That's what would happen with your rivalry with Texas. It would slowly erode away. Twenty years after switching to the SEC, no Aggies actually at the school would really know why you have "Goodbye to Texas University" in your Aggie War Hymn.

Here's something else you would have to contend with that I don't think Aggies are really used to seeing, not on a regular basis.

SEC fans travel in very large packs. If you join the SEC, your campus will be routinely invaded by thousands of Alabama Crimson Tide fans, and thousands of UT Volunteer fans, and Ole Miss Rebel fans, and Georgia Bulldog fans, LSU fans, etc. etc.

I'll bet y'all have never been invaded by thousands upon thousands of Baylor fans, or Iowa State fans, or Kansas fans.

In the SEC, it will be a weekly invasion. And you will not like what you see. I'd pay $20 to watch some cadet yell at a group of drunken Crimson Tide fans to "get off the grass" on campus. You'll think "t-shirt fan" when Bubba and Jethro and his six cousins from near Birmingham who never went to the University of Alabama get done with you.


And that's another thing. Y'all call Texas the "sips" or "t-sips" to make fun of their effete superiority complex. I get it. I've seen it and experienced burnt orange arrogance first hand, remember?

In the SEC, there ain't nobody sipping no tea, got it? The SEC is a six-pack of Budweiser conference and maybe some shots of Jack Daniels conference.

Oh sure, SEC fans will talk about themselves as being "classy" and I know one family friend (an LSU fan) who keeps telling me that the SEC plays by "gentlemen's rules."

Yeah. Check. Got it. Gentlemen's Rules. Gentlemen like Travis and Rezin Bowie. Look up the particulars of the "Sandbar Fight" involving Mr. Bowie for a look at "gentlemen's rules" in SEC land.

But that's how y'all will have to change immediately. You will have to get over hating Texas so much. You will have to realize that you'll be up against programs that all have hundreds of thousands of so-called "t-shirt fans," only SEC "t-shirt fans" are the kind of folks who will knock your teeth out for making fun of their colors. You will have to get used to the idea of thousands upon thousands of these "t-shirt fans" showing up on your campus, ready to rumble.

Y'all heard about the Alabama guy who poisoned Auburn's ancient oak trees at Toomer's Corner, right? And then called an Alabama radio sports show and bragged about doing it?

What they'll do on Reveille's grave won't pass for flowers, either.

Welcome to the SEC, baby.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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this is dumb
AlexNguyen
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tbirdspur2010
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Hey OP, GFY!

kthxbai
chosin
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I don't mind t shirt fans, but t shirt fans are poors. /hth
TexAg15
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Aggies don't have anything against our own t-shirt fans. Just don't call them Aggies.
ChiAggie
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First, Aggies will have to get over your weird disdain for so-called "t-shirt" fans. Your universe will have to get a lot bigger than just folks who went to A&M if you ever want to compete in the SEC.


That's not all Aggies.

Enjoyed the post though!
TxAginAz
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hawg, It seems you don't know the history between A&M and tu. And you definitely don't know the words to tu's fight song and the fact they say the exact thing same about us in theirs.



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It was Buckley
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First, Aggies will have to get over your weird disdain for so-called "t-shirt" fans.


What happens if we don't? Will we play differently?

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You'll have to let go of your irrational hatred of Texas, at least some of it.


What happens if we don't? Will we play differently?

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C'mon, the line "Goodbye to Texas University" is in the Aggie War Hymn. Y'all cannot tell me that you don't have an irrational, deep-seated hatred for Texas. You cannot tell me "Oh, they're just our biggest rival."

You express your hatred for exactly one school in the Aggie War Hymn. Texas University


And tu's fight song is about us.

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In the SEC, it will be a weekly invasion. And you will not like what you see. I'd pay $20 to watch some cadet yell at a group of drunken Crimson Tide fans to "get off the grass" on campus. You'll think "t-shirt fan" when Bubba and Jethro and his six cousins from near Birmingham who never went to the University of Alabama get done with you.


That grass is a WAR MEMORIAL. If you don't want to respect that the police are quite efficient at removing people no matter how inbred they may be.


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But that's how y'all will have to change immediately. You will have to get over hating Texas so much. You will have to realize that you'll be up against programs that all have hundreds of thousands of so-called "t-shirt fans," only SEC "t-shirt fans" are the kind of folks who will knock your teeth out for making fun of their colors. You will have to get used to the idea of thousands upon thousands of these "t-shirt fans" showing up on your campus, ready to rumble.


We don't have to change a damn thing and we're not going to.
-ME
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Love any Aggie fan...My dad didn't go to college, but had A&M season tickets. He had to drop them to send me to A&M. My whole family are Ags, but only a few attended. Never understood why it matters.
T Shirt Aggie
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Aggies don't have anything against our own t-shirt fans. Just don't call them Aggies.




Stupid. This mentality is why we'll never have enough t-shirt fans to field a great program.

You know how much money tu brings in every year from t-shirt fans?
Gone
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I will say this. I think if A&M does move to the SEC, then the rebranding of "Texas Aggies" coupled with "Texas A&M" could have a big effect. You know, like the old baseball jerseys! (Just my shameless plug to get BB to bring back the Texas Aggies jerseys from the 90s!)
Butmywifesaid
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One time......at band camp.

We are in texas fight song too Jackwagon.
Proudest Grasshopper
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Hardcore, ticket buying, money donating, t-shirt Ag, here!
AlexNguyen
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"And tu's fight song is about us."

UT has one reference to A&M in the Texas Fight and it's merely the default value. "Texas Fight, Texas Fight, And it's Goodbye to A&M." We're supposed to change A&M every week to whatever team we're playing but most people never got the memo.

I don't really care to argue over which school is more obsessed with the other, but this one bit of inaccuracy is a pet peeve of mine when Aggie fans make this point.
It was Buckley
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Whatever, it mentions us. Not the most important point.

If the SEC is expecting us to alter our culture they are sorely mistaken.
EODag05
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Well said. We can probably stomach a few hats in the MSC, or the occasional foot on memorial grass. But one thing: No Bonfire jokes.

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Look up the particulars of the "Sandbar Fight" involving Mr. Bowie for a look at "gentlemen's rules" in SEC land.

Most of us have known about the life and times of Jim Bowie since 6th Grade Texas history class.

Remember the Alamo, dude.

[This message has been edited by EODag05 (edited 8/15/2011 3:18p).]
EKUAg
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Why do you think the hatred is irrational????

fightinags2013
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LOL so much fail in the OP.... I don't even know where to start....
Boots over Delaware
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Good post.

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Thousands upon thousands of people who attended smaller colleges in Arkansas, like UCA and Arkansas Tech also consider themselves Razorbacks, not anything else. Being a Razorback fan in Arkansas is cultural. It has nothing to do with where you went to school. It doesn't even matter if you didn't got to school at all.


It's easy to take this position when you are the only true flagship in the state.

Ragnar Danneskjold
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arkansas is not texas. In Texas you are raised to be a longhorn, aggie, are retard. Its a larger state's identity.
fig96
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You know how much money tu brings in every year from t-shirt fans?


Well, two years ago at least. Oddly not a lot of them showed up last year...
Ardeth Bey
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UT has one reference to A&M in the Texas Fight and it's merely the default value. "Texas Fight, Texas Fight, And it's Goodbye to A&M."

That's funny, when I was an undergrad we used to sing it differently.

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[This message has been edited by Howlin Possum (edited 8/15/2011 3:21p).]
TxAginAz
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The term "Tshirt fan" needs to be defined on this thread because it's not being represented correctly as Ags see it.

If you are know nothing, wannabe poser ******* with no knowledge of the school and it's historic rivalry besides what they saw on esipn and that starts chit every you go for no reason then you are considered a Tshirt fan to us.

If you show support for a certain school in a respectful manner that does not embarrass said school you are cool in our book and more power to you.

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[This message has been edited by TxAginAz (edited 8/15/2011 3:45p).]
heddy Lamarr
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I've been to two games at Kyle Field as a member of the Marching Razorback band.


I am done...somebody tell me how this ends.
1/2 Man 1/2 Amazing
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Can't believe I just read all that thinking it was going somewhere. Who is this guy??

The sips sing "goodbye to A&M" in their fight song but nobody really knows that....including you.
John Winger
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The buyer's remorse among SEC fans in a couple years will be funny. Sure, you get an easy win and inroads to Texas, but you'll have to put up with these guys forever.
aggieann
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With all due respect, there is absolutely no comparison between Texas/Arkansas or Texas A&M/UA. And yes, I have lived in both places.
John Winger
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but nobody really knows that


You know why? because it's mentioned once and generally not unless we're playing you. You guys have about 14 references to us in your fight song.
It was Buckley
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Well, two years ago at least. Oddly not a lot of them showed up last year...



It was incredible how empty and quiet that place was in November.
Gone
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That's funny, when I was an undergrad we used to sing it differently.


Some of us still know the correct words!

BITE, BITE, BITE MY ASS!
Cannonball Craig III
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I'm glad that was all explained to us. Now we will be ok.
TxAginAz
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Oh and F your made up pet peeve, you lying sip troll. Your song says goodbye to A&M and you corkersoakers sing it that way (by your admission) every week. Case closed.

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Claude os, aperi oculos!
FtBendTxAg
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Only read 2 sentences then quit. ****ty post.
duffelpud
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Cute essay. See you on the gridiron.
 
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