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I don't get the fascination with Washington hosting. Spare me "leading conference" and "west coast." RPI is 38. Awful.
quote:Winning both remaining series 2-1 doesn't guarantee us a national seed, IMO. (It should, but that's a different story.) We need to win the west division and at least 1 game in the SEC tourney to be safe from another NCAA screw job.
We have to win one of the two remaining series to be guaranteed a national seed. If Ole Miss or USCe goes 5-1 in their last two series, they will likely be a national seed. If both go 5-1, then we could be the odd team out.
quote:quote:Winning both remaining series 2-1 doesn't guarantee us a national seed, IMO. (It should, but that's a different story.) We need to win the west division and at least 1 game in the SEC tourney to be safe from another NCAA screw job.
We have to win one of the two remaining series to be guaranteed a national seed. If Ole Miss or USCe goes 5-1 in their last two series, they will likely be a national seed. If both go 5-1, then we could be the odd team out.
quote:If we go 20-10 in the SEC, with series wins over LSU, MSU, Vandy, South Carolina, and Ole Miss, we'll be one of the top 4 national seeds--we won't even ben on the bubble. You need to check your BAS. MSU could win out and beat us to the division/conference championship, but it wouldn't matter.quote:Winning both remaining series 2-1 doesn't guarantee us a national seed, IMO. (It should, but that's a different story.) We need to win the west division and at least 1 game in the SEC tourney to be safe from another NCAA screw job.
We have to win one of the two remaining series to be guaranteed a national seed. If Ole Miss or USCe goes 5-1 in their last two series, they will likely be a national seed. If both go 5-1, then we could be the odd team out.
quote:Yeah, it would look great at that point, but you guys are all saying it would be a lock, and it's not.
if the Ags win another game in Columbia, I think the national seed is a lock.
that would be the Ags' 4th series win over top 15 RPI opponents --- and 2 would be on the road. All the metrics...road wins, top 50 wins, etc.., would look great.
quote:Conference standings really don't mean much to the committee, especially where you don't play the same schedule. The only time we were a top 8 seed, we were Big XII champs and #8, while runner up Baylor was the #5 seed. If we win these last two series, we will be seeded higher than State no matter where we finish in the conference standings.
I disagree. I think the only 2 guaranteed national seeds from the SEC are the two division winners. Then there will most likely be one more national seed from the SEC. If SC and Ole Miss match our record over the last 6 (at 4-2, but each losing their series to us 2-1) and perform better than us in the SEC tourney, the NCAA will have all of the excuses they need to pick one or the other over us.
Granted this scenario isn't likely, but if it happens, then we aren't guaranteed a national seed, even having won our last 2 series.
quote:So, you think if we go 20-10, having swept MSU at their place, and having played the tougher schedule (they played Vandy, Georgia, Florida and Missouri, while we got USC instead of Missouri), if they finish 21-9, you think they are getting a national seed ahead of us? Not going to happen. Now, this could all be academic--we could drop the ball, or State could lose to Auburn or Arkansas, but if it plays out in the hypothetical we're discussing, we're going to be a top 4 national seed, period. State might be a national seed, but they will be in the 5-8 range, in all likelihood.
Conference standings don't matter, but championships do. And the SEC West championship is at least as impressive as any conference championship other than the SEC or ACC.
quote:If after that we go winless in the SEC tournament and they win it, I could see the NCAA giving them the nod over us, yes.quote:So, you think if we go 20-10, having swept MSU at their place, and having played the tougher schedule (they played Vandy, Georgia, Florida and Missouri, while we got USC instead of Missouri), if they finish 21-9, you think they are getting a national seed ahead of us? Not going to happen.
Conference standings don't matter, but championships do. And the SEC West championship is at least as impressive as any conference championship other than the SEC or ACC.
quote:quote:Conference standings really don't mean much to the committee, especially where you don't play the same schedule. The only time we were a top 8 seed, we were Big XII champs and #8, while runner up Baylor was the #5 seed. If we win these last two series, we will be seeded higher than State no matter where we finish in the conference standings.
I disagree. I think the only 2 guaranteed national seeds from the SEC are the two division winners. Then there will most likely be one more national seed from the SEC. If SC and Ole Miss match our record over the last 6 (at 4-2, but each losing their series to us 2-1) and perform better than us in the SEC tourney, the NCAA will have all of the excuses they need to pick one or the other over us.
Granted this scenario isn't likely, but if it happens, then we aren't guaranteed a national seed, even having won our last 2 series.
quote:If we go 2-1 in our final 2 series, Ole Miss & LSU are eliminated from contention for the West title.quote:Winning both remaining series 2-1 doesn't guarantee us a national seed, IMO. (It should, but that's a different story.) We need to win the west division and at least 1 game in the SEC tourney to be safe from another NCAA screw job.
We have to win one of the two remaining series to be guaranteed a national seed. If Ole Miss or USCe goes 5-1 in their last two series, they will likely be a national seed. If both go 5-1, then we could be the odd team out.
quote:It only matters for tournament seeding. I'm not even sure if there is a division championship trophy.
Are there even tiebreakersfor awarding division champs? Or is it like basketball where they award co-champions and tiebreakers only matter for tournament seeding?
quote:I think you're right. I didn't realize that winning both series 2-1 entailed at least tying for the division lead.
If we go 2-1 in our final 2 series, Ole Miss & LSU are eliminated from contention for the West title.
MSU would need to win their remaining 5 conference games to tie, but we have the tie breaker due to the sweep.
If we go 2-1 in both series, we will be the West champions and have a shot at the regular season SEC title. We would be a national seed lock before the SEC tourney begins.
quote:I don't think Kendall was a math major.
I guess that depends what your definition of "tied" is.
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