Ar'Mond Davis (6'6/G/2016) from the College of Southern Idaho

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Brad Winton @JucoRecruiting 1m1 minute ago

Texas A&M has offered Ar'Mond Davis (6'6/G/2016) from the College of Southern Idaho: http://www.jucorecruiting.com/armond-davis-basketball-recruiting
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Oh my.
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His dunking reminds me a bit of Zach Lavine's hanging in the air style.
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Driving to the hole with no regard for human life.

Wherever he goes, and I hope he comes here, he's going to be fun to watch.
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2 or 3 here?
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Yes please. Lot of talent there. Would be interested in seeing his stat line.

Love a guy that can throw it down and hit the deep three.
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Gets up and down the floor quickly. Good footwork and body control. A finesse player with panache. He would be an exciting player to watch in the maroon and white. Even has some deep ball range.
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From the link in the OP, is showing that he has offers from Memphis, Alabama, Iowa State, Penn State, & Missouri, in addition to Texas A&M.

Is showing that he is scheduled to visit Memphis on Sept. 6, is scheduled to visit A&M on Sept. 11, and he is scheduled to visit Alabama on Sept. 18th, so there is definitely a legit interest between the school and him (both ways) in at least those three cases.

JUCO recruits typically want to play NOW. Remember that they don't have 4 years of eligibility remaining like HS recruits, so they often are scrutinizing the projected roster for their first year on campus even more-so than a HS guy.

Alabama just recently landed 5-star SG Tarrance Ferguson.
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1st season stats at CSI:

Averaged 11 points in 16 minutes of play.
Shot 42% from the field, 28% from 3pt range.
Shot 74% from the line.
4 rebounds per game.
1.3 steals per game.
Scored 20+ points in five games last season. Only averaged about 20 minutes per game in those 5.

Overall assessment: He appears to be a scoring machine. His offensive strengths are clearly getting to the basket and finishing. However, he is streaky from long range. Has lots of upside if he can improve his 3pt shot. We'll see how much he improves this season. Seems to be an excellent rebounder and defender. 1.3 steals per game in 16 minutes of play is really good.
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Didn't miss a shot. I like.
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May have taken an extra step at about the 2:08 mark.
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May have taken an extra step at about the 2:08 mark.


Pull the offer.
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Meh...not as quick as I would hope, and I don't like the Fabyon-like low release point.
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Meh...not as quick as I would hope, and I don't like the Fabyon-like low release point.
Sarcasm, right?

He looks like a good player. Tough to tell from highlight videos but looks like he has an incredibly quick trigger, which isn't really a bad thing for a kid playing JUCO. But he clearly has some range on the shot, loves driving to the hoop, solid handles. Does look a little slow laterally but he clearly has some bounce, not to mention great height for the position.
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Right handed Jordan Green if he had confidence.
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/14/hard-work-tough-love-turn-armond-davis-into-division-i-prospect/
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Didn't miss a shot. I like.

Editing.





Seriously, I'm no fan of JUCOs. The adjustment is challenging. This kid would be entertaining to see, though.
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Meh...not as quick as I would hope, and I don't like the Fabyon-like low release point.
Sarcasm, right?

He looks like a good player. Tough to tell from highlight videos but looks like he has an incredibly quick trigger, which isn't really a bad thing for a kid playing JUCO. But he clearly has some range on the shot, loves driving to the hoop, solid handles. Does look a little slow laterally but he clearly has some bounce, not to mention great height for the position.

Rapid release may make up for low release point. Beyond that Fabyon shot it like sideways - it made Joakim Noah look like Steph Curry.

Defense could be an issue.
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Jordan would have had more confidence if he didn't think he would get pulled for a miss.
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Pulled for a miss? Most here were happy to see him on the bench eternally.
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Jordan would have had more confidence if he didn't think he would get pulled for a miss.


Huh. He was an awful shooter and missed a ton while playing a bunch of minutes. He was a starter. Some guys got it and some don't. He will do well in life and be a great Aggie.
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There are more times than I can count when Jordan pulled our butts out of the grease when the team was struggling. He was also one of the best defenders in the SEC and gave Marshall Henderson fits.

Totally disagree with your view on JG.
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There are more times than I can count when Jordan pulled our butts out of the grease when the team was struggling. He was also one of the best defenders in the SEC and gave Marshall Henderson fits.

Totally disagree with your view on JG.


Dissenting opinions welcome. I do remember a few big plays surrounded by a lot of bad offense. He was a high energy defender but he wasn't a super elite defender either. Maybe I am more harsh because I always felt he could've been a good player.

Maybe you can remind me of all the times he pulled us out of the fire in his four years. The two moments I remember were against Rice hitting the game winning 3 and the big shot he hit against UTn at Reed. I know there are others. He was good against an awful team we had no business being down to last season but don't remember who it was.
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his highlights look outstanding..........hope he commits to the good guys
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MM, similar recollections. I don't have a memory good enough to remember who contributed what in each and every game.

All I know is that he was an aggressive offensive player in the Dallas HS area, and that spirit got killed by something here. You cannot send a young player out onto a D1 basketball court and tell him that he will get pulled if he screws up. And if you do, you will get someone who is cautious. Remember how before last year, it seemed no one wanted to have the ball in their hands when things were going poorly or the game was on the line?
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By his own words, Jordan Green never defined himself as primarily a 'basketball player'. He always seemed to have a lot of faith in other plans for his life.

I'm not saying that he didn't practice and play hard, because he always seemed to do so, but my impression is (and somebody can feel free to correct me here) that Jordan did not even try to pursue any sort of professional basketball playing career (as Kourtney did) after graduating. He did not seem to be wired that way to me, in terms of his self ego needing to be based a bunch on athletic accomplishments.

I admired him for who he was. Guy who gave everything he had on the court and seemed to always be a peace with himself off of it, win or lose. Seemed like a great person to have in the locker room and around other players.
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Reading some recent comments by Andrew Jones family being put out there by recruiting services, I'm liking our chances less and less to get him. A very recent quote by his dad indicated that he wanted to go somewhere that allowed him play a bunch right away as a freshman, including some time at PG, and that they were taking a really careful look at the projected 2016-2017 rosters

Just based on some of the more recent public comments by the Jones family, sure seems like the projected roster of Gilder and Caldwell and Robinson and Raquan Mitchell, etc. for 2016-2017 is going to probably sink us. It may seem weird to think we will be losing Caruso, Collins, and House on the perimeter and still look 'loaded' for 2016-2017 to recruits...but yeah, with Gilder/Robinson/Mitchell/Hogg/Caldwell you still got 4 guys out of those five who were national-100 rated players out of HS...including 2 guys at PG...and I could easily see a guy like Andrew Jones looking at that and thinking there was easier PT to be found else where.
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A very recent quote by his dad indicated that he wanted to go somewhere that allowed him play a bunch right away as a freshman
Freshman? From JUCO?

It's not just that we are loaded, but we are loaded and young.

When I said "most on here" regarding Green, I wasn't really including myself. He was frustrating to watch sometimes but I appreciated what he brought when he was on the court. Maybe someday (now?) we won't need that one guy who is a gutty defensive specialist who can be a liability at times, but that wasn't the case in Green's 4 years, or the 4 years before or.....
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My take is that this guy looks like he might exceed Andrew Young expectation wise. We offered so if he accepts he's one of us.

I think any comparison to Jordan Green is unfortunate. Green came in as a four-year player and came in as a 3* iirc. He found a role and filled some similar shoes to D-Ro and Dominique Kirk. He probably wasn't the same player as either of those two.

One could speculate on whether Jordan would have been better off in a different program. Jamaal Branch didn't show that much at St. John's and came in the same time Jordan did and was arguably the better talent. Which leaves me with the sensation that Jordan accomplished what he could with the talent he had.

I can't tell from this video where this kid is either athletically or skill wise. He therefore is kind of in the same category as Raquan Mitchell: he's another in a long series of projects that BK and crew take on because they can't recruit directly the talent they believe they need to win.

That in and of itself isn't the big deal. The big deal is that the coach up seems to be roughly like a wet noodle. Nothing against Jordan: we can't tell if he reached his talent and learning lid, if he put hard work time in but not gym rat quality time, or if the coaching somehow was loyal to him without really taking him where he could go. So in typical Aggie fashion we thank him for his representation of the University and wish him the best in his future endeavors. He represented us well while he actively played and will be a great representative as a Letterman in my opinion. And that is nothing to look down at.
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I wouldn't put Green in the same category as Roland or Kirk. You can if you want to.
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I can't tell from this video where this kid is either athletically or skill wise. He therefore is kind of in the same category as Raquan Mitchell: he's another in a long series of projects that BK and crew take on because they can't recruit directly the talent they believe they need to win.
Did you fall asleep during the Danuel House, Tyler Davis, Elijah Thomas, DJ Hogg, Admon Gilder, J.J. Caldwell, Alex Collins, Robert Williams (probably the biggest 'project' guy but still a 4-star top 60 ish nationally ranked recruit) recruiting haul that occurred between May 2014 and June 2015?

It is on paper the best recruiting run that we have ever seen over about a calendar year of time at Texas A&M. EVER. A+ recruiting. Would not surprise me at all if a minimum of 3 of the guys listed above will eventually be wearing an NBA uniform at some point down the road.

So when I see somebody in August 2015 post 'long series of projects'...after the incredible recruiting run that we just witnessed...I can't help but log-on and wonder how in the world a poster could have that perspective right now.

And because of the recruiting run above, we will very likely have an NCAA team for at least the next 2 years. Even if the bench coaching is mediocre, it looks like we have now stockpiled at pretty impressive pile of 'Jimmys and Joes' that will probably save the day.

As far as player development, there are plenty of posters willing to point out the failures, which I can't disagree with. I'll go ahead and point out one of the recent successes, just for some balance, that the staff has had thus far...which is with House. House absolutely was a more consistently better player here than he was at Houston once he really got rolling in SEC conference play, made first team All-SEC, and he has in public in particular credited the staff for being a big help in improving his 3-point shot.

Now...Raquan Mitchell and this JUCO guy...totally agree with you there...total mystery in what we are going to get. Maybe they will be like Andrew Young. Maybe they will be like the JUCO Jamal Jones whom we picked up who was a decent player. I do know that CSI is a pretty good JUCO program with a good track record of producing D1 players but beats me. His offer list even though it has Missouri and Alabama in it still seems a bit 'so-so' to me. So it will be hard to get that excited if this is our SG/combo guard in the 2016 class. I'd much rather land Andrew Jones but I'm not optimistic any more about that.
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I wouldn't put Green in the same category as Roland or Kirk. You can if you want to.
The category I put him in his defense first effort. The similarity of the shoes had more to do with role than exceeding. I thought he might get some stroke in his senior year. And he got some.

I like Jordan because he kept after it. I'm loathe to complain about a student who completed his tour of duty.
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I can't tell from this video where this kid is either athletically or skill wise. He therefore is kind of in the same category as Raquan Mitchell: he's another in a long series of projects that BK and crew take on because they can't recruit directly the talent they believe they need to win.
Did you fall asleep during the Danuel House, Tyler Davis, Elijah Thomas, DJ Hogg, Admon Gilder, J.J. Caldwell, Alex Collins, Robert Williams (probably the biggest 'project' guy but still a 4-star top 60 ish nationally ranked recruit) recruiting haul that occurred between May 2014 and June 2015?

It is on paper the best recruiting run that we have ever seen over about a calendar year of time at Texas A&M. EVER. A+ recruiting. Would not surprise me at all if a minimum of 3 of the guys listed above will eventually be wearing an NBA uniform at some point down the road.

So when I see somebody in August 2015 post 'long series of projects'...after the incredible recruiting run that we just witnessed...I can't help but log-on and wonder how in the world a poster could have that perspective right now.

And because of the recruiting run above, we will very likely have an NCAA team for at least the next 2 years. Even if the bench coaching is mediocre, it looks like we have now stockpiled at pretty impressive pile of 'Jimmys and Joes' that will probably save the day.

As far as player development, there are plenty of posters willing to point out the failures, which I can't disagree with. I'll go ahead and point out one of the recent successes, just for some balance, that the staff has had thus far...which is with House. House absolutely was a more consistently better player here than he was at Houston once he really got rolling in SEC conference play, made first team All-SEC, and he has in public in particular credited the staff for being a big help in improving his 3-point shot.

Now...Raquan Mitchell and this JUCO guy...totally agree with you there...total mystery in what we are going to get. Maybe they will be like Andrew Young. Maybe they will be like the JUCO Jamal Jones whom we picked up who was a decent player. I do know that CSI is a pretty good JUCO program with a good track record of producing D1 players but beats me. His offer list even though it has Missouri and Alabama in it still seems a bit 'so-so' to me. So it will be hard to get that excited if this is our SG/combo guard in the 2016 class. I'd much rather land Andrew Jones but I'm not optimistic any more about that.
My reference to projects include RM, this guy, Jahns, Young, TroMo (possibly Miller) and arguably Green to name just a few. Green was recruited by Turgeon and BK honored the commitment. Kudos to him for doing so. The rest I think we can all agree haven't exceeded expectations.

I'm not a pot banger. But I'm also not a sunshine pumper. If the current talent is as good as it is claimed to be, it ought to take over the court. Otherwise it's kind of like a previous of Blair's highly ranked teams: he got the high recruiting ranking by having a BUNCH of ranked recruits. They didn't all work out. The higher ranked on a few recruits the better (how Geno recruits for the UConn women's team). High ranking on a lot can be distracting from what is really going on.

I wouldn't put any of the fish other than RM in the project category. And it is fair to say he's just completely an unknown.
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If the current talent is as good as it is claimed to be, it ought to take over the court.
This 2015-2016 roster is pretty loaded, with proven senior talent (House, Jones, Caruso, Collins) not just the freshman. Barring some major injury problems, the probability of an NCAA bid seems pretty high. I personally havent even seen much 'banger vs. pumper' debate about that, since most posters seem to agree on that general opinion regardless. The debate has seemed to be much more whether the team will get the sort of NCAA seeding that you'd expect from the talent and experience level.
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