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7:22p, 10/24/16
www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/10/18/13309192/big-12-expansion-conference-realignment-grant-of-rights-inevitable-death

PS: The comments section is great.
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7:57p, 10/24/16
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I just do not understand all the thinking that Oklahoma St is going to the SEC. None of these folks have a clue.
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8:10p, 10/24/16
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LOL at the Baylol fan who can't figure out why the SEC doesn't want them. Classic Baylol
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9:26p, 10/24/16
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We're pairing back up with Texas and going BIG? First I've heard of it.
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9:39p, 10/24/16
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Great Caesar's Ghost there is a tremendous pile of stupid there. TCU in the SEC? Baylor?

They have no idea how this works. Unbelievable.
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6:16a, 10/25/16
Tu, OU, Okla state, tech to the PAC 12. If the pac12 will have them.

Maybe KU to the big10

Iowa state, Kansas state, Baylor, West Virginia, TCU to the AAC or conference USA.

I don't know why the author thinks these schools have value to the SEC which is already at 14 schools now. None of the big conferences are interested in saving big12 schools from themselves. Best for the big12 to put on their happy face and make the best of it.

It would be really bad for tu and OU to leave the conference in '24 only to realize no other conference is willing to pick them up.

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6:24a, 10/25/16
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The only way any of those jokers gets in the SEC is if/when the revenue model changes from subscription cable plans to another stream.

I'm not so naive to say that will never happen, but it is the only way these losers have a chance.

I have no doubt that Baylor's elite fan ratio can be put to good use to change the business model via action

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7:05a, 10/25/16
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Summary of what the author is trying to say:

"When the bdf blows up, it will be good for everyone. Everyone has great options of other conferences to go to. Except you, k state, screw you for beating us this past weekend. You get nothing."
~an unbiased sports reporter

They are just trying to convince the little teams of the bdf that conference explosion will be good by using completely ludicrous, unsubstantiated statements.
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In reply to AgsForTheWin • 7:17a, 10/25/16
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AgsForTheWin said:
LOL at the Baylol fan who can't figure out why the SEC doesn't want them. Classic Baylol


Cause they're rapists?
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7:30a, 10/25/16
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There are literally NO teams from the BDF that fit the criteria for SEC expansion. Most of those goons mistakenly think it has to do with recent or historical reputation.

Cultural fit and money, losers. None of you guys fit that.
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7:45a, 10/25/16
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Why are we considering TCU to the SEC but not Baylor? I get the point about off the field issues, but even with that I'd sooner imagine Baylor in the SEC than the Pac-12, just in terms of cultural/geograpical fit.
Same Baylol tard wrote this....good God they dumb.
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7:46a, 10/25/16
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Eh don't totally agree with that.

OU could fit in well and they give the conference an expanded presence in Dallas without adding a needless redundant Texas team and a new if smaller state (think what LSU does for helping deliver Houston) now of course SEC is not what their admin wants and only about 1/3rd of their fans want and there is the issue that we won't bring in their little brother for them.

KU would be another great addition (yes they arent the best cultural fit but neither is Mizzou) but the SEC has rightly made better basketball a priority and you simply don't pass up a chance to add a bluest of the blue blood to your roster. Now of course we're probably KU's 2nd to last choice of the P4 to join (we would at least give the Mizzou back and be closer than the PAC) but if the **** hits the fan we'd be wise to at least offer them.

Now beyond those two teams, all the other BDF can EAD and die
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In reply to Schrute • 7:51a, 10/25/16
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Schrute said:
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Why are we considering TCU to the SEC but not Baylor? I get the point about off the field issues, but even with that I'd sooner imagine Baylor in the SEC than the Pac-12, just in terms of cultural/geograpical fit.
Same Baylol tard wrote this....good God they dumb.


Pretty much. They can't grasp how a small fan base concentrated in Texas biggest metro area, a metro area the visiting teams would actually be playing in, is the superior choice to a small fan base scattered all over the state and not located in a major metro area or close to one.

They dumb
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8:12a, 10/25/16
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That was some rather stupid journalism right there!
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In reply to Schrute • 8:14a, 10/25/16
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Schrute said:
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Why are we considering TCU to the SEC but not Baylor? I get the point about off the field issues, but even with that I'd sooner imagine Baylor in the SEC than the Pac-12, just in terms of cultural/geograpical fit.
Same Baylol tard wrote this....good God they dumb.
To the Baylor tard that wrote that:

Having fake brick in your stadium automatically disqualifies you from the SEC.

Sorry about that dude.
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8:17a, 10/25/16
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In reply to chigger • 8:46a, 10/25/16
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chigger said:
There are literally NO teams from the BDF that fit the criteria for SEC expansion. Most of those goons mistakenly think it has to do with recent or historical reputation.

Cultural fit and money, losers. None of you guys fit that.
It's amazing how many people on sites like Reddit think that all it takes is recent and historical reputation.

Those same people will ironically talk immense amount of trash about TexAgs.

Any article that hits on the facts, statements, and predictions here is lambasted as "poorly written" and "garbage". It all turns out to be true, but that's never acknowledged.
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 9:50a, 10/25/16
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Maroon Dawn said:
Eh don't totally agree with that.

OU could fit in well and they give the conference an expanded presence in Dallas without adding a needless redundant Texas team and a new if smaller state (think what LSU does for helping deliver Houston) now of course SEC is not what their admin wants and only about 1/3rd of their fans want and there is the issue that we won't bring in their little brother for them.

KU would be another great addition (yes they arent the best cultural fit but neither is Mizzou) but the SEC has rightly made better basketball a priority and you simply don't pass up a chance to add a bluest of the blue blood to your roster. Now of course we're probably KU's 2nd to last choice of the P4 to join (we would at least give the Mizzou back and be closer than the PAC) but if the **** hits the fan we'd be wise to at least offer them.

Now beyond those two teams, all the other BDF can EAD and die
I don't see either of these teams in the SEC. KU does not generate enough money and OU would be a recruiting problem for us.

If the SEC wants to expand, look east.
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In reply to ghollow • 10:24a, 10/25/16
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ghollow said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Eh don't totally agree with that.

OU could fit in well and they give the conference an expanded presence in Dallas without adding a needless redundant Texas team and a new if smaller state (think what LSU does for helping deliver Houston) now of course SEC is not what their admin wants and only about 1/3rd of their fans want and there is the issue that we won't bring in their little brother for them.

KU would be another great addition (yes they arent the best cultural fit but neither is Mizzou) but the SEC has rightly made better basketball a priority and you simply don't pass up a chance to add a bluest of the blue blood to your roster. Now of course we're probably KU's 2nd to last choice of the P4 to join (we would at least give the Mizzou back and be closer than the PAC) but if the **** hits the fan we'd be wise to at least offer them.

Now beyond those two teams, all the other BDF can EAD and die
I don't see either of these teams in the SEC. KU does not generate enough money and OU would be a recruiting problem for us.

If the SEC wants to expand, look east.
Nothing's happening East with the ACC"s new network and GOR extension.

Look at the map. If the SEC wanted to go to 16 teams, OU and KU add football and basketball blue-bloods and flagship schools in two new contiguous states.

Don't think it's such a far fetched scenario.
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10:26a, 10/25/16
Right now, its still about footprint population. Oklahoma and Kansas are both very small states and neither is growing rapidly.

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10:38a, 10/25/16
And I am astounded how ignorant even prominent writers like Bruce Feldman are. The economics of realignment are so simple. A reasonably intelligent person could spend a day researching the topic and have a functional understanding of the principles that guide the process. Basically a ripoff of Bonfire, but here it is again:

-Football makes the money
-A big, stable, and supportive fanbase is the biggest key to longterm success
-Stadium capacity is a quick-n-dirty measure: 80k or more = solid, 60-80k = probably good enough
-Population of the program's state is currently a big factor for cable revenue, it will change eventually
-Recruiting in the program's state is also a factor

Other, lesser, non-football factors can include:
-academic prestige, AAU membership is the quick-n-dirty measuring stick
-Basketball success

By those factors:

-sips will have options (if they drop the LHN)
-ou will probably have options (if they can cut okie lite loose)
-kansas might be able to make a play
-iowa state could possibly make a play, especially if it bundles with one of the above three

-everyone else is reprobate
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10:44a, 10/25/16
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Much ado about nothing.

The SEC will expand at the time and place of it's choosing, and will do so in a manner to increase it's footprint to maximize viewers, and will only do so with the right cultural fits.

Translations, they want to expand their footprint in to denser population centers that are contiguous tot he existing conference states. They want North Carolina and Virginia.

Most likely targets are UVA or VTech and North Carolina. One could even make a case for Duke. It would be like another Vandy but could deliver even more of a national audience for basketball.
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11:33a, 10/25/16
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IMO the current state of the Big12 benefits all other conferences. They are pretty much eliminated from the playoff discussion. We should all hope the Big12 stays together and continues its downward spiral.
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12:14p, 10/25/16
It's hilarious how the two teams that have he best shot are Kansas and Iowa state. Both should go B1G.
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In reply to ClassOf17 • 12:15p, 10/25/16
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ISU will never be in the B1G as long as the Hawkeyes are.
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12:28p, 10/25/16
The bottom line is that the SEC is not a scavenger, waiting for the BDF to die to pick off the BDF's "best" when they do not have any "bests", just a conference filled with losers, has beens, and wanabes. It will select the best candidate, probably from the States of VA and NC to increase the SEC footprint and add additional value to the conference.
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12:43p, 10/25/16
Do not want ou. One of the reasons they are getting worse is b/c we went to the SEC and have a recruiting advantage. Arky would probably say the same. A&M, Arky, and ou all recruit DFW. Let's keep our advantage and not give them more of a foothold.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 12:54p, 10/25/16
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Urban Ag said:
Much ado about nothing.

The SEC will expand at the time and place of it's choosing, and will do so in a manner to increase it's footprint to maximize viewers, and will only do so with the right cultural fits.

Translations, they want to expand their footprint in to denser population centers that are contiguous tot he existing conference states. They want North Carolina and Virginia.

Most likely targets are UVA or VTech and North Carolina. One could even make a case for Duke. It would be like another Vandy but could deliver even more of a national audience for basketball.
This makes so much sense.
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12:59p, 10/25/16
Why would UVA, VT, or NC listen to the SEC? They are in a good conference with a network.
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In reply to el_guapo • 1:11p, 10/25/16
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el_guapo said:
Why would UVA, VT, or NC listen to the SEC? They are in a good conference with a network.
They might never be interested.

The SEC will chose to remain at 14 rather than adding any of the furture Big 12 orphans.

HTH
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9:27a, 10/26/16
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Exactly. There is no mandate to get to 16 except in fans minds.
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