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Mr. Havok
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According to ESPN they're self imposing double-digit scholarship reductions.

Edit: got the notification on my phone and didn't already see a thread about it. Sorry, but that's all the info I got.
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http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2016/05/27/ole-miss-releases-notice-allegations-response/84969156/

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Ole Miss released the notice of allegations and its response to it Friday morning, but the school isn't ready to move forward with the case after recent news involving Laremy Tunsil.
Text messages released on April 28 regarding alleged payments between Tunsil, a former offensive tackle, and assistant athletic director John Miller were new to the athletic department. Ole Miss has requested the committee on infractions hearing be moved off the summer docket.
The school submitted its response on April 21, meaning the NCAA would've had 60 days from that date to develop its response for a case summary. The parties would then go before the committee on infractions, which could've taken a few weeks to schedule.
The committee's ruling would come about six weeks after the hearing, perhaps in September. But now the timing of the case is unknown after release of information regarding Tunsil.
There were 28 allegations levied against the school, and athletic director Ross Bjork and chancellor Jeffrey Vitter wrote that "we agree that a violation of NCAA rules occurred; however, for several of those allegations we do not agree on all of the facts. For five of those 27 violations, we believe the violation should be classified different," meaning as a lower level of violation.
There were two Level I violations for academic misconduct, two Level I violations for unethical conduct directed at individuals who were no longer university employees when the violation occurred, seven Level I violations for other misconduct or unethical conduct charges, four Level I violations of improper benefits from boosters and four Level I violations of head coach control in women's basketball.
There were also eight Level II violations and four Level III violations. Level I violations are the most serious, followed by Level II and then Level III.
The self-imposed penalties for football included a disassociation of an organization and four individuals for at least three years; additional rules education for the staff; recruiting suspension for two assistant coaches; a reduction of scholarships and initial grants-in-aid; reductions of recruiting evaluation opportunities, initial and unofficial visits; and a fine of $159,325.
Women's basketball self-imposed penalties included termination of staff members and head coach; postseason ban for 2012-13 academic year; reduction of scholarships; reduction of official visits, recruiting-person days and calls; and prohibition on signing of two year college transfers.
The track and field self-imposed penalties include a "mutually agreed upon resignation of head coach" Bryan O'Neal, additional rules educations for staff members and reduction of official visits and off-campus recruiting days.
There was also a "general" three-year probation.
The football program has appeared in front of the committee on infractions three times.
The committee gave Ole Miss a public reprimand and one year of probation on Oct. 27, 1959, after "a representative of the University's athletic interests solicited the attendance" of a recruit "with the offer and gift of financial aid and equivalent inducements," according to its report.
On Dec. 12, 1986, the committee issued Ole Miss television and postseason bans of one year and placed the program on probation for two years. Ole Miss was also limited to a maximum of 20 initial scholarships in 1987-88 and was allowed to have just eight full-time coaches recruit in 1987 and 1988, among other punishments, for multiple violations.
Ole Miss also received a one-year television ban and a two-year postseason ban and was placed on probation for four years in a case involving multiple violations announced Nov. 17, 1994. Other punishments included receiving a public reprimand, a reduction of 12 initial grants for the 1995-96 and 1996-97 seasons and a loss of 32 total official visits, among other things.
The women's basketball, men's track and field and women's track and field programs haven't had a case presented to the committee on infractions before.
The release comes after the school received the notice of allegations on Jan. 22. Everything would've been released last month, but a third party requested and was granted a 30-day delay, the only one permissible in the process, athletic director Ross Bjork said.
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The Baylor of Mississippi
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According to ESPN they're self imposing double-digit scholarship reductions.

Edit: got the notification on my phone and didn't already see a thread about it. Sorry, but that's all the info I got.
who needs a scholarship when you're getting nfl money...
The Collective
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Reduce scholarships = pay more per athlete. Excellent....
kammrath
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With all these university infractions and scandals going around, I'm thankful Sumlin has handled this program the right way for the most part when it comes to player issues (not including primadonna QBs transferring - not a scandal). When someone does something wrong, he punishes them. When a player does something very wrong - they are kicked off the team, see Claiborne, Golden, and Kam Miles. The same goes all the way back through Sherman's tenure too.

I don't care if it sounds cliche or cheesy, but I'm proud we have a head coach that does things the right way. Think about all the crap that has gone on throughout the last year with regards to football programs. We have not been squeaky clean, but I'll take stealing lotion from a store, violating team rules, 2 QBs decommitting because they are soft as baby powder, or an assistant coach being "mean" on twitter over the following:

- Ole Miss - several recruiting infractions over the course of the past decade; now self-imposed scholarship reductions.
- texas - head coach that cheated on his wife serially and lies his *** off to recruits, along with being a poor representative of the university. Rumors of recruits being paid (Brandon Jones I'm looking at you..). All of Mack Brown's slaps on the wrists of talented players doing bad things.
- baylor - everyone knows what's going on here
- lsu - last summer Anthony Jennings and multiple other players arrested on felonies and given mere suspensions....among other serious incidents players were a part of that were left to players' votes..
- ou - pardoning and welcoming criminals at all costs to win (DGB, Joe Mixon, etc.)
kammrath
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akm91
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Heck, if you cheat might as well go big right? 62% of violations are Level I.
12mn95
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So 11 scholarship reductions taken over 4 years? It will hurt a little bit but take 11 over 2 years or 15 over 3 years, I think.
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With all these university infractions and scandals going around, I'm thankful Sumlin has handled this program the right way for the most part when it comes to player issues (not including primadonna QBs transferring - not a scandal). When someone does something wrong, he punishes them. When a player does something very wrong - they are kicked off the team, see Claiborne, Golden, and Kam Miles. The same goes all the way back through Sherman's tenure too.

I don't care if it sounds cliche or cheesy, but I'm proud we have a head coach that does things the right way. Think about all the crap that has gone on throughout the last year with regards to football programs. We have not been squeaky clean, but I'll take stealing lotion from a store, violating team rules, 2 QBs decommitting because they are soft as baby powder, or an assistant coach being "mean" on twitter over the following:

- Ole Miss - several recruiting infractions over the course of the past decade; now self-imposed scholarship reductions.
- texas - head coach that cheated on his wife serially and lies his *** off to recruits, along with being a poor representative of the university. Rumors of recruits being paid (Brandon Jones I'm looking at you..). All of Mack Brown's slaps on the wrists of talented players doing bad things.
- baylor - everyone knows what's going on here
- lsu - last summer Anthony Jennings and multiple other players arrested on felonies and given mere suspensions....among other serious incidents players were a part of that were left to players' votes..
- ou - pardoning and welcoming criminals at all costs to win (DGB, Joe Mixon, etc.)



I don't think any of us know enough how Sumlin runs a program to say he operates a clean ship.
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Not that Ole Miss and Baylor don't deserve what they get, but I still can't see how Florida State gets a complete pass when it comes to the allegations surrounding Winston. Its almost like all that never happened. I guess the same could be argued for t.u. with the whole Alamo Bowl stuff 2 or 3 years ago. No, it isn't 8-12 incidents, but is only one or two OK?
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Those scholarship reductions take a bite. That's not insignificant. Who knows what the NCAA will do, other than respond slowly. That's about the only thing they are consistent about.
Bullet Tooth Tony
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A&M must have been on self-imposed sanctions the last few years because we routinely don't fill the max 85 limit. Not that giving a few of those schollies to walkon seniors is a bad thing, but just sayin.
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So Ole Miss is banning the Women's Basketball team from postseason play, but the football team committed the most violations and only has scholarship reductions.

Sounds fair.
Shooz in Katy
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This is hilarious. Exactly like when I offer my kids to choose their own punishment. "Only one serving of ice cream for dessert tonight?"
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and a fine of $159,325.

Seems kind of random...
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Do Ole Miss have a board?
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With all these university infractions and scandals going around, I'm thankful Sumlin has handled this program the right way for the most part when it comes to player issues (not including primadonna QBs transferring - not a scandal). When someone does something wrong, he punishes them. When a player does something very wrong - they are kicked off the team, see Claiborne, Golden, and Kam Miles. The same goes all the way back through Sherman's tenure too.

I don't care if it sounds cliche or cheesy, but I'm proud we have a head coach that does things the right way. Think about all the crap that has gone on throughout the last year with regards to football programs. We have not been squeaky clean, but I'll take stealing lotion from a store, violating team rules, 2 QBs decommitting because they are soft as baby powder, or an assistant coach being "mean" on twitter over the following:

- Ole Miss - several recruiting infractions over the course of the past decade; now self-imposed scholarship reductions.
- texas - head coach that cheated on his wife serially and lies his *** off to recruits, along with being a poor representative of the university. Rumors of recruits being paid (Brandon Jones I'm looking at you..). All of Mack Brown's slaps on the wrists of talented players doing bad things.
- baylor - everyone knows what's going on here
- lsu - last summer Anthony Jennings and multiple other players arrested on felonies and given mere suspensions....among other serious incidents players were a part of that were left to players' votes..
- ou - pardoning and welcoming criminals at all costs to win (DGB, Joe Mixon, etc.)

this bears repeating. i haven't caught a whiff of any smoke surrounding our program, except for the changing of coordinators and moorehead's tweetgate 2016.

if that's all that we're knocked for in lieu of all these other things, i'll be satisfied.
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How convenient they dropped this the day after the whole Baylor thing, and right before a long weekend.
Bob Dobalina
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Everybody cheats, some schools pay more (or their boosters do) and are much more blatant about it.

Ole Miss was very blatant with coaches actually paying players (that went out with SMU). These days the bagmen are never officially on the school payroll unless you are really dumb.
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Take out the trash day
AceAggie05
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So, they fire the head coaches of every sport involved except football, which has by far the most infractions. Got it...
Mordred
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and a fine of $159,325.

Seems kind of random...
Average amount they were paying players?
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This is why the death penalty should be shortened to 1-year - and invoked!
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Baby blue Baylol
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No way the self imposed penalties satisfy the NCAA. They are starting a new investigation of the Tunsil draft day incident, where it was made clear on national TV that the Ole Miss administration had lied to the NCAA.

NCAA will hammer Ole Miss and Freeze will be fired.
The Collective
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Weak. Even the piss ant NCAA will laugh at those "recommendations".
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and a fine of $159,325.

Seems kind of random...

Payoff amount on top recruits parent's house.
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How convenient they dropped this the day after the whole Baylor thing, and right before a long weekend.
Page 1 of the Damage Control Handbook
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Always better to fire someone on a Friday
Spica
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Let them keep the scholarships. Ban them from bowl games for five years, so that no player currently on campus will ever compete for a championship. That will cripple recruiting far more than scholarship limits. Their scholarships will need to be used on a bunch of 2-star athletes to fill out their roster.
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Did they agree to reduce the number of casino chips given to players?
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