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Gruden: "I don't know what technique they're using down at Texas A&M"

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10:55p, 4/28/16
AG
John, we don't know either. Mr turner will make adjustments.

Kiper: very sloppy with his technique.

Otherwise they said germain has a huge upside with good coaching.
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10:58p, 4/28/16
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved
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In reply to W • 11:02p, 4/28/16
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


This
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1:51a, 4/29/16
AG
Only 4 trips around the sun to figure it out
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1:56a, 4/29/16
AG
So why does Sumlin get a free pass on this? He hired those gentlemen.
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3:27a, 4/29/16
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...and then promptly fired them when they didn't produce. In DC's case, after only one year.

Then hired Jim Turner.
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Franklin Delano Bluth
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4:54a, 4/29/16
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Why wasn't Turner kept on when Sumlin was hired?
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5:11a, 4/29/16
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Because keeping members of the former regime is rarely done.Coaching 'families' are very tight knit and loyal.
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5:51a, 4/29/16
Another 1st round OL getting paid.

That's what I see.
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5:52a, 4/29/16
AG
The OL philosophy with much wider splits is part of the spread. The change in technique towards two-point stance was discussed at length on AggieSports when Sumlin came in. And Christensen was not the first OL coach but WAS a spread adherent (OC under Pinkel prior to HC and then OC stints out west.)

I am interested in how Turner deals with the system and whether technique gets better unless he moderates the splits. It takes raw power to isolate an SEC DE or DT and technique can only do so much which is why the SEC has traditionally been more of a power running conference. Narrower splits make stunts more effective imho. It's about which hole (or hole options) this particular play can open. The idea that a back is fast enough to stand with the ball and pick a hole only works at the high school level. Not in the SEC or the even faster NFL.
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Definitely Not A Cop
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5:54a, 4/29/16
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Sumlin lost control of Gruden.
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In reply to W • 6:36a, 4/29/16
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quote:
Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


One guy is still left at the top.
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In reply to Aggie_Eric98 • 6:53a, 4/29/16
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quote:
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


One guy is still left at the top.
Write the check and your opinion will matter.
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In reply to Franklin Delano Bluth • 7:01a, 4/29/16
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Why wasn't Turner kept on when Sumlin was hired?


Wanted to bring in his buddy from UH
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In reply to AgsMyDude • 7:06a, 4/29/16
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Why wasn't Turner kept on when Sumlin was hired?


Wanted to bring in his buddy from UH


... and I thought it was because he became the OL coach on Miami Dolphins team, as well as kept working for his boss from one team to another.
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Ft Worth Ag
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7:07a, 4/29/16
AG
He might very well be right in his assessment, but he is still a blowhard that wants to hear himself talk.
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7:16a, 4/29/16
Coaches, players, schemes, etc. Whatever, it's five years into this "program" so figure it out.
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In reply to Velvet Jones • 7:35a, 4/29/16
AG
quote:
quote:
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


One guy is still left at the top.
Write the check and your opinion will matter.
Ok...
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In reply to Velvet Jones • 8:09a, 4/29/16
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quote:
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


One guy is still left at the top.
Write the check and your opinion will matter.
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12:32p, 4/29/16
Not to mention that Ifedi played guard in highschool, learned guard his redshirt year, played guard his RS Fr year, then moved to RT, but was also trying to learn LT to take over after Ced left. I'm sure none of that had anything to do with lack of technique and I'm sure was aware of that before he popped off in public like that.

I still am glad we got rid of Dave and hired Turned back because we were poorly coached last year, but Ifedi being raw at OT shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone.
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12:37p, 4/29/16
Or he's uncoachable.. Its something tho....
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In reply to Ft Worth Ag • 2:16p, 4/29/16
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He might very well be right in his assessment, but he is still a blowhard that wants to hear himself talk.
That's called a coach.
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In reply to greg.w.h • 2:23p, 4/29/16
AG
I do not understand what you are saying. Therefore, I believe you must be correct!
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In reply to Franklin Delano Bluth • 9:32p, 4/29/16
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Why wasn't Turner kept on when Sumlin was hired?

Why does the sun keep on shining? Why do these eyes of mine cry?
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In reply to ftworthag02 • 5:50a, 4/30/16
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This makes me effing irate - how could we hire a conference USA staff pay them top dollar and expect results? Dumb
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In reply to TheDoctor • 11:54a, 4/30/16
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...and then promptly fired them when they didn't produce. In DC's case, after only one year.

Then hired Jim Turner.

He also brought in BJ who sucked for three years. As far as I'm concerned, Sumlin made bad decisions at the OL spot for four years.
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In reply to jickyjack1 • 8:59p, 4/30/16
AG
quote:
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Why wasn't Turner kept on when Sumlin was hired?

Why does the sun keep on shining? Why do these eyes of mine cry?


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In reply to cheeky • 11:06p, 4/30/16
AG
quote:
So why does Sumlin get a free pass on this? He hired those gentlemen.


Sumlin doesn't, but he's almost righted the wrong by bringing back the Sherman disciple that recruited all these fine young men who've been drafted in the first round over the last 4 years.
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2:50p, 5/2/16
AG
Good OL technique left with Sleepy. Maybe he as not so sleepy after all.
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3:31p, 5/2/16
AG
not breaking news...

but the 2 positions where Sherman left his mark so to speak were:

(1) o-line
(2) WR

both have slipped in the past 4 years from a coaching, development, and technique standpoint
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In reply to Velvet Jones • 4:12p, 5/2/16
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Gruden is right. The former offensive coaching staff got what they deserved


One guy is still left at the top.
Write the check and your opinion will matter.
Now that made me laugh out loud!!!! Needed that on a Monday afternoon.
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4:19p, 5/2/16
Last year the technique was "stick your hands out and close your eyes."
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In reply to gonemaroon • 7:22p, 5/2/16
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This makes me effing irate - how could we hire a conference USA staff pay them top dollar and expect results? Dumb
To be fair, that conference USA staff won 11 games, produced a Heisman winner and finished in the Top 5, while knocking off the eventual national champion on the road.

Three of those conference USA coaches are now head coaches in D1.

But to the OP's point, Gruden is right you know.
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In reply to Dobre casy • 9:13a, 5/3/16
AG
I meant the position coaches - not the head coach, but anyhow when you are writing big checks go hire the best available not an unproven coach.
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In reply to gonemaroon • 11:29a, 5/3/16
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I meant the position coaches - not the head coach, but anyhow when you are writing big checks go hire the best available not an unproven coach.
I was talking about the position coaches...Polian, Beaty and Kliff, or as you referred to them, Conference USA coaches. They are now head coaches. You must be new to Aggie football...welcome!
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