Don't forget UNC cheating scandal.
In that one, the NCAA just announced this weekend it's no longer investigating men's basketball or football. Women's basketball is being investigated instead.

Uh.. I think Pedophile State and Rape University FAR outweigh a few paid potheads at Ole Miss when it comes to scandals and morality.

Louisville as well.

Nike schools.

baylor is penn state bad at this point. ole miss is smu dirty. But there is a difference between paying players and enabling and protecting multiple sexual predators.

I will say this. A&M will never win at the level of the teams around us as long as we act gun shy about the ncaa.

Are you kidding? Look up some of the scandals of the 1970s and 1980s. Make these look like kids play.

There was nothing like baylor or penn state during that time. Paying players has been going on decades. Everyone does it but some schools do it at another level. Those schools tend to win and the ncaa does nothing to them.

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Are you kidding? Look up some of the scandals of the 1970s and 1980s. Make these look like kids play.

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Might be true for Ole Miss, but it's not true for Baylor.

Don't forget that baylor also had one of the biggest college sports scandals within the last 15 years with players murdering each other and a coach trying to cover it up. Oh yeah, and they had a basketball player break his pregnant girlfriend's jaw.

rape, murder, spousal abuse, all around awfulness, that's so baylor.

It's harder for the NCAA to impose sanctions on schools for the following reasons:

1. With the over abundance of bowl games, if too many teams are banned from them, then there won't be enough eligible teams to fill all of the slots.

2. What would happen if a team was banned from TV and that team was scheduled to play Notre Dame?

If they aren't going to enforce their rules equally, then they should stop claiming moral high ground and tell everyone to go ahead and pay their players.

And as far as Baylor goes, I say, let every one of their games be televised. But at the beginning and end of a commercial break, the commentators have to say, "All of the compensation Baylor is receiving for this broadcast is being given to the 8 girls that were sexually assaulted under Art Briles watch while he continued to look the other way so that he could win."

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If they aren't going to enforce their rules equally, then they should stop claiming moral high ground and tell everyone to go ahead and pay their players.

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This - If there is not enforcement of rules, then why are the rules there?

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If they aren't going to enforce their rules equally, then they should stop claiming moral high ground and tell everyone to go ahead and pay their players.

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This - If there is not enforcement of rules, then why are the rules there?

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A&M should lawyer up and just hand out cash to recruits if the ncaa continues to do nothing when it is obvious schools are cheating like ole miss. Remember when colt's wife said tu players were getting benefits? Nothing happened. If the ncaa tries to bring the hammer on us threaten to sue them. We actually did it with the JFF autograph fiasco and the ncaa backed down. We need to do that from here on out.

Nothing will top what happened at Penn State. Those where children raped on campus by a Penn State Coach. Penn State coaches had knowledge and did nothing.

It's just because of the internet and social media that we hear about them

Baylor is full of scum bags and a pretty piss poor school all around but this thread is uninformed and dumb.

Ohio State and the whole trading pants for tats scandal. No that is nowhere near the Penn State and current Baylor issues, but it was all that people talked about when the stories came out.

Also the baylor murder story in the early 2000s.

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Remember when colt's wife said tu players were getting benefits?

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Yes, I remember. Just making sure this is seen.

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Nothing will top what happened at Penn State. Those where children raped on campus by a Penn State Coach. Penn State coaches had knowledge and did nothing.

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With the truly terrible nature of what happened at penn state and baylor, I do not there is the issue of whether one tops the other. They are both so bad that they are unique to college athletic scandals, and considering baylor's history that is amazing. Both schools had crimes repeatedly enabled and covered by their administrators and football coach. The only difference is that it was a coach at penn state and it was multiple players at baylor. The victims are numerous and were ignored by both schools even as their numbers grew.

baylor deserves a permanent death penalty as much as any school. This is not their first rodeo with terrible tragedy and scandal, this is just it at is worst. baylor has a systematic problem that is inherent to the school at this point. They would best be served not having an athletics program, so they do not commit in more crimes in the name of it.

The NCAA has claimed for years that they don't have subpoena power and are thus hampered by this in any investigation. For some idiotic reason it hasn't dawned on anyone at the NCAA office that they could include a provision in their membership agreement requiring schools to cooperate fully and make staff and athletes available for questioning. If that provision does exist, they don't appear to be using it.

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Nothing will top what happened at Penn State. Those where children raped on campus by a Penn State Coach. Penn State coaches had knowledge and did nothing.

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With the truly terrible nature of what happened at penn state and baylor, I do not there is the issue of whether one tops the other. They are both so bad that they are unique to college athletic scandals, and considering baylor's history that is amazing. Both schools had crimes repeatedly enabled and covered by their administrators and football coach. The only difference is that it was a coach at penn state and it was multiple players at baylor. The victims are numerous and were ignored by both schools even as their numbers grew.

baylor deserves a permanent death penalty as much as any school. This is not their first rodeo with terrible tragedy and scandal, this is just it at is worst. baylor has a systematic problem that is inherent to the school at this point. They would best be served not having an athletics program, so they do not commit in more crimes in the name of it.

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You're forgetting Baylor's murder cover up, which was in fact a coach covering it up.

Is Baylor the only team to have MULTIPLE huge scandals?

How has nobody brought up FSU and Winston yet? Shocking.

Baylor is a terrible place. No school should have one of these incidents much less multiple incidents in such a short time frame. It goes beyond just an individual or individuals, and is a cultural problem.

Baylor is out of control and has been for years. For goodness sake they had a basketball player kill a teammate and dump him in a sand pit. And they knew about it.

Baylor needs to moment of pause.

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The NCAA has claimed for years that they don't have subpoena power and are thus hampered by this in any investigation. For some idiotic reason it hasn't dawned on anyone at the NCAA office that they could include a provision in their membership agreement requiring schools to cooperate fully and make staff and athletes available for questioning. If that provision does exist, they don't appear to be using it.

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I don't think the lack of subpoena power is an issue when it comes to the school and current athletes. They have to cooperate, the schools particularly because if they don't imposed penalties are often harder.

The real issue is when people that know of improper benefits but aren't directly tied to the school, i.e. not current players, coaches or administration can't be forced to cooperate. Example, Colt's wife. She can say to the media all she wants that she saw Texas players get cash. If the NCAA calls her directly and she won't testify then it's as if it never happened.

tu every year. The NCAA had three "No Touch" coaches that they would NEVER investigate...Paterno, The Bear, and D K Royal. I had good friends who played at tu during those times...money...clothes...cars,

The NCAA is a discriminatory organization just like the democrats in the EPA, IRS, and in state attorney offices.

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tu every year. The NCAA had three "No Touch" coaches that they would NEVER investigate...Paterno, The Bear, and D K Royal. I had good friends who played at tu during those times...money...clothes...cars,

The NCAA is a discriminatory organization just like the democrats in the EPA, IRS, and in state attorney offices.

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So you don't think we have done the same thing. Where have you been.

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tu every year. The NCAA had three "No Touch" coaches that they would NEVER investigate...Paterno, The Bear, and D K Royal. I had good friends who played at tu during those times...money...clothes...cars,

The NCAA is a discriminatory organization just like the democrats in the EPA, IRS, and in state attorney offices.

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So you don't think we did the same thing?

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So you don't think we have done the same thing. Where have you been.

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Everybody cheats but some schools have been able to historically get away WAY more than other schools.

The ole miss stuff is going to challenge that. ole miss is not a ncaa favorite child and they have had trouble before. Nothing more than a slap on the wrist tells everyone else to go full bore like ole miss did. Only handful of schools have been able to cheat without worry of ncaa sanctions. Those days may be over, as the organization has become increasingly toothless and dependent on the schools' money.

Penn State holds this crown and it's not even close.