champagnepapi and Vato Loco doing some serious trolling today.

And all that first-round NFL talent produced 3 points in the second half and overtime against an 8-5 Mizzou team. At home.

2011 wasn't all on defense. It was a coaching failure.

1st round QB, three first-round tackles, an NFL center, 2nd-round RB, 4th-round RB.... 3 points.

it's Friday afternoon...time to wax philosophical for a moment...

when thinking about the differences between the Sherman era and the Sumlin era...one big thing that stands out...the miracle comeback wins. And this again speaks to 2nd half game management, clock management, and strategy.

in Sumlin's 4 years the Ags have 5 improbable/unlikely/stunning comeback wins:

2012 & 2013 at Ole Miss
2014 & 2015 in OT vs. Arkansas
Chick-fil-A Bowl

how different would the Sumlin era look if the Ags had only pulled off 1 or 2 of those shocking wins?

on the flipside...in Sherman's 4 years there was really only 1 win that might be considered a snatch-victory-from-the-jaws-of-defeat type win:

2010 at Baylor

and there were at least 7 second half or 4th quarter collapses that led to stunning wins for the Ags' opponents (in regulation or overtime) from the 2009 game at Colorado to Sherman's final game vs. t.u.

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no doubt quite a contrast

We've uncovered one of the Aftermath socks.

Spotted KSTATE 59 points one year...

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-0.500 overall record at Eggyland

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-0.500 overall record at Eggyland

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So, like Sumlin?

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I have a feeling where going to get a gay ass lecture about how sherman's last two years where better than swag's last two years.

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-had ZERO to do with Von Miller

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This is way wrong...

But only this

Sherman had a part in those guys development.

Some he didn't recruit (Von Miller), others he didn't even play (Mike Evans). But you can't give him full credit for the development of all those listed.

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Von Miller
Ryan Tanehill
Jeff Fuller
C-Mike
Mike Evans
Ryan Swope
Tony-Jerod Eddie
The Matthews Brothers
Randy Bullock
Shall I keep going.....
2 of those players have superbowl rings

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His program didn't produce many wins, though.

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Please explain what he did to recruit and develop.

We averaged about 6 wins per season in a down conference

This was a great Sherman moment

Loss at Kyle to Arkansas State

http://www.astateredwolves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1572528

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...Arkansas State left 78,691 Texas A&M fans at Kyle Field stunned, defeating the Aggies 18-14 Saturday night in the season opener for both teams. Texas A&M had won its last 20 home openers, and the loss was just the fourth defeat for the Aggies in their last 50 non-conference games at home

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Am I the only person who remembers the Sherman years as the ones where we came out at half time with a lead and then lost it as the team lost gas in the last quarter of the game? One of the biggest problems we had were players who just couldn't play for 60 minutes. 30? No problem? 45? Sometimes. 60? Rarely. This was such an issue that the first thing Sumlin did when he got here was start working the crap out of the guys to build up their stamina and conditioning.

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Am I the only person who remembers the Sherman years as the ones where we came out at half time with a lead and then lost it as the team lost gas in the last quarter of the game? One of the biggest problems we had were players who just couldn't play for 60 minutes. 30? No problem? 45? Sometimes. 60? Rarely. This was such an issue that the first thing Sumlin did when he got here was start working the crap out of the guys to build up their stamina and conditioning.

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Maybe the conditioning was an issue. I had a problem with the whole going 3 and out on PASS plays in the 4th quarter.

My biggest problem, well only problem really, was Sherman expecting these 18-22 year old players to act like NFL professionals. While Sherman spent four weeks in the Summer at Martha's Vineyard, the inmates ran the asylum. He expected these boys to show up, in shape and prepared for August practice, because of their own professionalism and drive. Then, just like an NFL team, they would spend the first month finding their groove and end up being pretty good down the stretch. This was OK for Mike Sherman. This was the definition of success, how you looked and played at the end of the year. Great for NFL Playoffs where nearly 40% of the teams go to the playoffs. Not conducive to College Football.

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I remember von giving an interview where he said mike sherman is the only reason he became von miller.

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Am I the only person who remembers the Sherman years as the ones where we came out at half time with a lead and then lost it as the team lost gas in the last quarter of the game? One of the biggest problems we had were players who just couldn't play for 60 minutes. 30? No problem? 45? Sometimes. 60? Rarely. This was such an issue that the first thing Sumlin did when he got here was start working the crap out of the guys to build up their stamina and conditioning.

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Maybe the conditioning was an issue. I had a problem with the whole going 3 and out on PASS plays in the 4th quarter.

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You mean you weren't a fan of C-Mike going for 200 yards in the first half on the way to a 35-17 halftime lead against Arkansas and then giving him the ball 2 times in the 2nd half on the way to a 42-38 loss?

But he was le tired.

Why is it so difficult for people to recognize that Sherman deserves praise as a talent evaluator and for bringing the program up from the depths Fran had left it in AND he was a horrible game day coach who had some inexplicably bad losses and was not the guy to lead us forward. Every time someone posts about his talent evaluation someone else mentions his blow out losses as if that contradicts it and vice versa.

Sherman plus KK would have been Gold

Did we hire a D-Line coach yet?

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Loss at Kyle to Arkansas State

http://www.astateredwolves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1572528

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