If TW is in the doghouse, its because he has said the same thing we have. Basically, the coaches suck at play calling and he knows it.
quote:yep the screwed cmike over
I was wondering this too...hope it isn't another cmike situation.
quote:This is what I have been trying to say. He is an in space runner, not a between the tackles guy. Too light in the butt and legs.
Here are the stats as of Oct 2, 2014 ESPN report
Trey Williams is ranked 2nd is SEC in rushing yards per carry before contact in SEC. A measurement of speed and quickness.
Here are the leaders in rushing yards per carry after contact.
Player Average National rank in SEC 1. Todd Gurley, Georgia 4.339 2. Josh Robinson, Mississippi State 4.014 3. I'Tavius Mathers, Ole Miss 3.8115 4. Darrel Williams, LSU 3.6420 5. Jonathan Williams, Arkansas 3.3928 6. Alex Collins, Arkansas 3.331 7. Russell Hansbrough, Missouri 3.2733 8. Terrence Magee, LSU 3.1835 9. Nick Marshall, Auburn 3.0242 10. Derrick Henry, Alabama 2.7758
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Here are the leaders in rushing yards per carry before contact. A measurement of speed and quickness.
1. Braylon Heard, Kentucky 5.95 * 2. Trey Williams, Texas A&M 4.6616 * 3. Todd Gurley, Georgia 4.5121 * 4. Jaylen Walton, Ole Miss 4.3125 * 5. Corey Grant, Auburn 4.2927 * 6. Jonathan Williams, Arkansas 3.9738 * 7. Alex Collins, Arkansas 3.9241 * 8. Kelvin Taylor, Florida 3.8544 * 9. Josh Robinson, Mississippi State 3.8247 * 10. Dak Prescott, Mississippi State 3.5258
quote:OK, I'll try to help you one more time. Lets try powerful legs for power running.
The objective of the smart RB is to gain efficient yardage. The chances of doing that increase when you AVOID contact. Anyone can run into someone. It takes a special skill set of vision/quickness/speed/lateral movement/elusiveness/experience to be efficient, that is why he is the leading RB. Barry Sanders is an excellent example. If having big legs was the objective, then lineman and body builders would be Running Backs. Also, to run successfully between the tackles requires good blocking. No one can just run into a pile of defenders and just push everyone back. But I have seen Trey surrounded by 5 defenders against Ole Miss, made all of them Miss and then scored a TD, skinny legs and all.
quote:Oh! I'm sorry. You must be talking about a Fullback. Well, that position has become Extinct!!! The modern Football game has evolved into a game of Speed and Quickness at the skill positions and Power at the Line of Scrimmage positions. 60 years ago Football was 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Those days are gone. Chances are if you tried to play the game that you would probably want to run more like Trey, instead of running into people with power, risking your health.quote:OK, I'll try to help you one more time. Lets try powerful legs for power running.
The objective of the smart RB is to gain efficient yardage. The chances of doing that increase when you AVOID contact. Anyone can run into someone. It takes a special skill set of vision/quickness/speed/lateral movement/elusiveness/experience to be efficient, that is why he is the leading RB. Barry Sanders is an excellent example. If having big legs was the objective, then lineman and body builders would be Running Backs. Also, to run successfully between the tackles requires good blocking. No one can just run into a pile of defenders and just push everyone back. But I have seen Trey surrounded by 5 defenders against Ole Miss, made all of them Miss and then scored a TD, skinny legs and all.
quote:No, I am talking about being able to run thru tackles some time. Read the stats, there is a reason he is not listed among the best in YAC. Their is a place for Trey but he has not been consistently effective between the tackles.quote:Oh! I'm sorry. You must be talking about a Fullback. Well, that position has become Extinct!!! The modern Football game has evolved into a game of Speed and Quickness at the skill positions and Power at the Line of Scrimmage positions. 60 years ago Football was 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Those days are gone. Chances are if you tried to play the game that you would probably want to run more like Trey, instead of running into people with power, risking your health.quote:OK, I'll try to help you one more time. Lets try powerful legs for power running.
The objective of the smart RB is to gain efficient yardage. The chances of doing that increase when you AVOID contact. Anyone can run into someone. It takes a special skill set of vision/quickness/speed/lateral movement/elusiveness/experience to be efficient, that is why he is the leading RB. Barry Sanders is an excellent example. If having big legs was the objective, then lineman and body builders would be Running Backs. Also, to run successfully between the tackles requires good blocking. No one can just run into a pile of defenders and just push everyone back. But I have seen Trey surrounded by 5 defenders against Ole Miss, made all of them Miss and then scored a TD, skinny legs and all.
quote:So I guess you feel that he should not be playing, well that's your opinion. Running Backs usually try to gain yardage the best way that they can. It is not mandatory that you run thru people. Trey has been the most successful RB on the team. The other RB's that are running thru tackles have fewer yards and less TD's. No one can do everything. We are fortunate to have a guy like Trey with his skill set. I was just questioning why he is under utilized. To speculate that it's because he doesn't run thru tackles is ridiculous. Numbers Don't Lie! Trey is productive and needs to get the ball more. By the way - Who has better stats and runs thru tackles, on this team?quote:No, I am talking about being able to run thru tackles some time. Read the stats, there is a reason he is not listed among the best in YAC. Their is a place for Trey but he has not been consistently effective between the tackles.quote:Oh! I'm sorry. You must be talking about a Fullback. Well, that position has become Extinct!!! The modern Football game has evolved into a game of Speed and Quickness at the skill positions and Power at the Line of Scrimmage positions. 60 years ago Football was 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Those days are gone. Chances are if you tried to play the game that you would probably want to run more like Trey, instead of running into people with power, risking your health.quote:OK, I'll try to help you one more time. Lets try powerful legs for power running.
The objective of the smart RB is to gain efficient yardage. The chances of doing that increase when you AVOID contact. Anyone can run into someone. It takes a special skill set of vision/quickness/speed/lateral movement/elusiveness/experience to be efficient, that is why he is the leading RB. Barry Sanders is an excellent example. If having big legs was the objective, then lineman and body builders would be Running Backs. Also, to run successfully between the tackles requires good blocking. No one can just run into a pile of defenders and just push everyone back. But I have seen Trey surrounded by 5 defenders against Ole Miss, made all of them Miss and then scored a TD, skinny legs and all.
quote:quote:This is what I have been trying to say. He is an in space runner, not a between the tackles guy. Too light in the butt and legs.
Here are the stats as of Oct 2, 2014 ESPN report
Trey Williams is ranked 2nd is SEC in rushing yards per carry before contact in SEC. A measurement of speed and quickness.
Here are the leaders in rushing yards per carry after contact.
Player Average National rank in SEC 1. Todd Gurley, Georgia 4.339 2. Josh Robinson, Mississippi State 4.014 3. I'Tavius Mathers, Ole Miss 3.8115 4. Darrel Williams, LSU 3.6420 5. Jonathan Williams, Arkansas 3.3928 6. Alex Collins, Arkansas 3.331 7. Russell Hansbrough, Missouri 3.2733 8. Terrence Magee, LSU 3.1835 9. Nick Marshall, Auburn 3.0242 10. Derrick Henry, Alabama 2.7758
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Here are the leaders in rushing yards per carry before contact. A measurement of speed and quickness.
1. Braylon Heard, Kentucky 5.95 * 2. Trey Williams, Texas A&M 4.6616 * 3. Todd Gurley, Georgia 4.5121 * 4. Jaylen Walton, Ole Miss 4.3125 * 5. Corey Grant, Auburn 4.2927 * 6. Jonathan Williams, Arkansas 3.9738 * 7. Alex Collins, Arkansas 3.9241 * 8. Kelvin Taylor, Florida 3.8544 * 9. Josh Robinson, Mississippi State 3.8247 * 10. Dak Prescott, Mississippi State 3.5258