Could it be because A&M has fallen from a top 50 university to outside the top 75?

http://www.chron.com/news/education/article/Katy-schools-come-out-on-top-on-latest-Niche-5869252.php#photo-7096428

1) St. John's
2) Kinkaid
3) Woodlands Prep
4) Awty

You're too rich and/or smart to go to A&M. I also bet those schools have less white people

plenty of white kids at those schools (aside from Awty).

....but A&M has never been a big destination for those schools.

something wrong with a list that has westbury christian higher than st. agnes, duchesne and john cooper though.

ITL rich kids overwhelmingly choose UT over A&M. When I graduated from HS ('99) A&M was ahead of UT in USN&WR rankings and had the famous Texas Monthly cover from '97 or '98 declaring it to be the top school in Texas. The two schools were pretty interchangeable at that point and you could argue that A&M's trajectory looked much better, but most kids who came from wealthy backgrounds chose UT, and the kids that applied to elite private schools chose UT as their backup, not A&M.

Fast forward to today and UT has opened a pretty big rankings gap and they are widely considered to be the premium product of the two flagship schools, so not surprising at all to see that continue to be the case.

St. Thomas feeds much more to A&M than the other major universities... similar culture.

Jesuit not ranked #1, list irrelevant.

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plenty of white kids at those schools (aside from Awty).

....but A&M has never been a big destination for those schools.

something wrong with a list that has westbury christian higher than st. agnes, duchesne and john cooper though.

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Also, agree with all of this.

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Kids from those schools are going to law school, politics, doctors

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A&M offers those degrees also ... just not as good

Westbury Christian top 7? That's a joke. And my stepdad has taken a job in retirement to teach there.

No real surprise imo. The wealthy parents sending their kids to these schools are from an era where t.u. was considered a MUCH better education than A&M.

Good.

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No real surprise imo. The wealthy parents sending their kids to these schools are from an era where t.u. was considered a MUCH better education than A&M.

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That's true as well. Most of the parents of my friends from high school were either from out of town or ut. I can't think of any of them that went to A&M. That will change a lot in the coming years I assume.

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ITL rich kids overwhelmingly choose UT over A&M. When I graduated from HS ('99) A&M was ahead of UT in USN&WR rankings and had the famous Texas Monthly cover from '97 or '98 declaring it to be the top school in Texas. The two schools were pretty interchangeable at that point and you could argue that A&M's trajectory looked much better, but most kids who came from wealthy backgrounds chose UT, and the kids that applied to elite private schools chose UT as their backup, not A&M.

Fast forward to today and UT has opened a pretty big rankings gap and they are widely considered to be the premium product of the two flagship schools, so not surprising at all to see that continue to be the case.

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who are those guys?

Those are the guys trying to turn A&M into a junior college.

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Engineering faculty from Texas A&M will teach engineering classes at the community college campus, enabling students to save money and stay close to home for their first two years working toward a Texas A&M engineering degree.

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Because people like sharp think a&m should be for every dumbass in the state.

I'm liberal as ****, not the typical guy who would go to A&M, but I went here because of earning potential, earning potential will fall if we keep dropping.

Honestly if you spent as much as SJS or a similar priced private school, would you send your kids to A&M or would you aim higher?

I can imagine A&M being a safety school for these students in the late 90's/early 2000's, but now? No. It's not even a top 50 university anymore.

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Honestly if you spent as much as SJS or a similar priced private school, would you send your kids to A&M

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A&M will get back on track. Don't discount the network.

Have we ever been popular with these schools?

Thats Sharp;s fault?

So a&m built its reputation in spite of not being popular with those graduates, but is dependent on them now to have a good reputation?

Why don't you just work hard and give the school a good reputation by example?

Good lord, lots of belly aching in here over flawed rankings. Those rankings are probably worse than CFB preseason and yet everyone loses their **** over them.

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So a&m built its reputation in spite of not being popular with those graduates, but is dependent on them now to have a good reputation?

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A&M has never had the reputation that UT-Austin or Rice has. It had closed the gap considerably a decade ago but has since gone the other direction.

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So a&m built its reputation in spite of not being popular with those graduates, but is dependent on them now to have a good reputation?

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Lol the long time reputation as being Poor Boy U? Where students went if they didn't have the money or grades to go somewhere better? That was A&M's reputation. Sounds like it's returning to those roots with A&M engineering professors teaching at junior colleges.

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We are not Texas. We never will be. Many of us are glad about that

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Former students that graduated in the 1970's and earlier tend to think this way. Former students that graduated in the 1980's and later tend to care much more about academics and don't have this inferiority complex, presumably because it was a better university by then, harder to get in, and more on par with UT. Unfortunately, the current regents and chancellor have the 1970's mindset. But they'll be out of power soon enough and A&M will be better for it.

Frankly, UT's academic reputation right now is nothing to write home about either. They're not ranked in the top 50 anymore. If A&M wanted to surpass UT in the rankings, it could very easily do it by limiting enrollment and decreasing the average class size. Regardless, the state of Texas needs both UT and A&M to be top ranked public universities. It's not a zero sum game and it's embarrassing a state of our size doesn't have at least 2 or 3 or more top 10 public universities. Governor Abbott has said this repeatedly and he's right.

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"We will begin the process of ensuring that we elevate some of Texas' elite colleges and universities into the top 10 nationally," Abbott said as he introduced his senior staff.

"One of the areas that disturbs me is the fact that five of the top 10 public universities in the country are from California, with none being from Texas," he said, referring to a U.S. News & World Report ranking of taxpayer-supported universities.

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I don't want to associate with most of the kids i ever met from high dollar private schools.
I'm guessing they are not much different today.

That being said, we have let some of our defining ideology be washed out by the masses, and they are trying to make A&M another generic institution. I love and prefer the small town, real people image that we used to be.

Then again, I'm sure i'm considered a neanderthal theses days; I hunt, I fish, I work, and I put family first (but not before God).


btw. if you need a good education at a good price, go to Lamar.