Well this is some twisted ****. People's Republic of Houston.

http://m.chron.com/news/politics/houston/article/City-subpoenas-pastors-sermons-in-equal-rights-5822403.php

Did I hear correctly that the pastors involved aren't even in the suit against the ordinance?

The funny thing is that this will probably be the catalyst that finally gets this thing on the ballot.

But atleast everyone feels equal now

Wow

Based on the articles I've read this seems like TOTAL BS to me. It's completely unnecessary and why I loathe politics these days. It's all agenda driven with no common sense or compromise applied at all.

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The pastors should tell the city attorneys to go play in traffic. That is a clear violaton of the First Amendment.

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Subpoenaing people who were actively involved in a petition that is central to a court case has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Why should church employees be immune from subpoenas for activities they participated in and the churches they work for participated in that are central to a lawsuit they brought against the City?

"We're going to sue you, but we don't think you should be able to gather any evidence from us."

No surprise the former head of Houston ObamaCorps is okay with this.

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"We're going to sue you, but we don't think you should be able to gather any evidence from us."

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Why don't you make sure you get your facts straight and not spread misinformation. None of the pastors being subpoenaed sued the City or Mayor Parker.

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No surprise the former head of Houston ObamaCorps is okay with this.

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LOLWUT

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"We're going to sue you, but we don't think you should be able to gather any evidence from us."

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Why don't you make sure you get your facts straight and not spread misinformation. None of the pastors being subpoenaed sued the City or Mayor Parker.

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Go look at the petitions. When you do that, the list of people subpoenaed will make sense.

I've read three different articles that all state the pastors in question are not part of the suit.

Ryan - Is this true or not? You seem to believe otherwise but you obviously have a bias with the parties involved. What are the facts?

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Militant intolerant homophobes suing public officials to push their agenda.

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FIFY

I honestly don't have time to look at the petition.

Are the articles wrong then?

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I've read three different articles that all state the pastors in question are not part of the suit.

Ryan - Is this true or not? You seem to believe otherwise but you obviously have a bias with the parties involved. What are the facts?

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See my response to KW02. All of the people subpoenaed were actively involved in the petition process far above and beyond just signing it.

Edit: Above is the "technically" from RTT...

Plaintiffs:
Jared Woodfill, Steven Holtz, FN Williams, Sr, and Max Miller

Subpoenas to: Pastor Hernan Castano, Ms. Magda Hermida, Pastor Khan Huynh, Pastor Steve Riggie, and Pastor David Welch

Dave Welch was the petition ringleader. The others were actively involved in the petition process. And I find it interesting that they don't show the full list of about 20 people who were subpoenaed.

Just so everyone is clear as to what the Petition says related to pastors:

"Along with each of the Plaintiffs herein, a coalition of pastors and others ('the Coalition') organized a petition drive to force the City of Houston to repeal this law . . . "

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Militant intolerant homophobes suing public officials to push their agenda.

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Keeping laughing about it. The mockery you intolerant, hateful, spiteful, single issue radicals are making of government is working out for you. Congratulations, you're winning.

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And the death throes or your movement are hilarious to watch because all the sane people are bailing on you, so your side just looks crazier and crazier.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/14/city-houston-demands-pastors-turn-over-sermons/

How do you impeach a Mayor?

Correct. A suit and petition are two TOTALLY different things. There's a CLEAR line and it appears our government is blurring it for their benefit and that's scary.

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so your side just looks crazier and crazier.

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let's tap the brakes here

the current climate of SJWs is pretty ****ing crazy

and they're not going to be satisfied with merely the outcome you see as just

I haven't signed a petition, but this looks bad for the city. This is people abusing power to bully those that disagree with their point of view.

Elected officials are their to REPRESENT the citizens of this city, not push their own agenda. Whether you agree with the petition or not political process was followed to stop the city from overstepping their bounds when this wasn't voted on by Houstonians.

If this act is supposed to represent what Houston wants, then why are politicians resorting to this extreme? Why hasn't it already been put to vote? To me, this speaks more than a petition or some pastor's sermon.

The City Hall Pink Mafia has zero tolerance for dissent.

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Dave Welch was the petition ringleader. The others were actively involved in the petition process. And I find it interesting that they don't show the full list of about 20 people who were subpoenaed.

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Subpoenaing people who were actively involved in a petition that is central to a court case has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Why should church employees be immune from subpoenas for activities they participated in and the churches they work for participated in that are central to a lawsuit they brought against the City?

"We're going to sue you, but we don't think you should be able to gather any evidence from us."

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Being involved in a petition =/= being a party to a lawsuit. You last quote is nonsense. No one is opposing the gathering of evidence from the parties (yet). I'm sure there will be woefully overbroad discovery requests served on them, but that's not the issue here. It is the City and Mayor abusing their power and trampling on the right to engage in religious practices without government interference or intimidation.

The selective enforcement of this Equal Rights ordinance is ridiculous. I haven't looked back at it in a while, but I'm almost certain that "religion" was a protected category under the ordinance. Didn't see the qualification that stated "no one may discriminate against you based on your religion so long as your views are not opposed to the Mayor's agenda."

I know you don't have a choice for a number of reasons, but you really can't honestly defend this one RTT.