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Forgot Pistol in Carry On

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Anyone had this happen? Was going through IAH today and as soon as I saw my bag disappear into the X-ray I remembered...too late.

I have my CHL, and the TSA and HPD were surprisingly cool. Cleared it, confiscated ammo and gave me my pistol back.

Said I would be subject to a fine up to $7500. Surely it won't be that much...right?!?!

txyaloo
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State law changed last year. No fine for CHL holders. You might be arrested since it's just a defense to prosecution, but there aren't any legal penalties.

I'd complain that they took your ammo. As long as you stayed in the non-secure area, you can return the gun to your car.

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(e-1) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)

that the actor:

(1) possessed, at the screening checkpoint for the

secured area, a concealed handgun that the actor was licensed to

carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and

(2) exited the screening checkpoint for the secured

area immediately upon completion of the required

screening

processes and notification that the actor possessed the handgun.

(e-2) A peace officer investigating conduct that may

constitute an offense under Subsection (a)(5) and that consists

only of an actor's possession of a concealed handgun that the actor

is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government

Code, may not arrest the actor for the offense unless:

(1) the officer advises the actor of the defense

available under Subsection (e-1) and gives the actor an opportunity

to exit the screening checkpoint for the secured area; and

(2) the actor does not immediately exit the checkpoint

upon completion of the required screening processes.

(f) Except as provided by Subsection (e-1), it [It] is not a

defense to prosecution under this section that the actor possessed

a handgun and was licensed to carry a concealed handgun under

Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
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Think I'd let the ammo go.
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Had a buddy that this happened to a few years ago. Had tucked his truck gun in his briefcase while staying at a hotel near the airport the night before. Didn't realize it until alarms started going off.

Ended up being a nightmare for him.
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I'll trade a felony for 7 rounds all day and twice on Sunday
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Think I'd let the ammo go.
Why? There's nothing illegal in Texas about what the OP did. Perfectly legal to carry in the unsecured area and the Legislature decided last year that it was an honest mistake if a CHL holder has their gun in their carry-on bag. Nothing in the law says LE/TSA can confiscate your ammo as long as you willingly leave the check point.
WillieAg08
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Probably were more lenient since it was .380. Had it been a .45 they woulda put me underneath the jail
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Count me in the ammo donation crowd on this one!
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This is why I have a dedicated carry on bag that is used for nothing else, especially anything gun related.
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Me too. I'd be all yes sir no sir and you can keep the ammo.
Chazz03
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I think you finally made a list
WillieAg08
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If I'm reading the bill correctly, TSA can still issue a civil fine, correct?
Mr. Dubi
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Funny. I had a nightmare about having an SBR upper in my carryon last night.

Just to be safe I never ever ever put guns in my luggage, even taking road trips just for this reason
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Accidentally had 20 rounds of 9mm in my bag at IAH last November, they were cool, confiscated, ran background, let me go after 15 mins. Got a packet in the mail from TSA saying warning only.
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Guy in a FB group I know left one round of Grendel in his carryon bag after a hunt and got caught in Japan on a business trip. Spent several days in a shiathole jail. He got out with no penalties. I check my bags now. Last time I flew, I had left a loaded G20 mag in my bag. Caught it at home, thank goodness.
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I had a loaded 9mm mag (no gun) in my backpack a couple of months ago, and they said I could either return it to my car or they would throw it away. Had to watch them take a picture of and then throw the ammunition and mag in the trash can before I could continue to my gate.
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Guy in a FB group I know left one round of Grendel in his carryon bag after a hunt and got caught in Japan on a business trip. Spent several days in a shiathole jail. He got out with no penalties. I check my bags now. Last time I flew, I had left a loaded G20 mag in my bag. Caught it at home, thank goodness.
This is one of the reasons my hunting bags are different than my business travel bags. I never want a stray round to get me in trouble, especially internationally.
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I got to spend 15 or 20 minutes several years ago because of an empty .45 ACP mag. Not sure what I was thinking, but for some reason it just didn't click that even a single empty mag in my carry on would be a relatively dumb thing for me to do.

The TSA saved countless lives that day, so there's that. HPD talked with me for a few minutes, my carry on was searched, and I was given the option of confiscation (nope), returning it to my vehicle (nope) or mailing it to myself (yep). My "free" mag ran me about $16.
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I got lucky - ticket agent told me my bag was overweight and advised I move a couple of items to my carry on - when I pulled out my soft rifle case I was immediately under the weight limit and she said "Bingo; now put that bag in your carry on"

Completely forgot the bolt to my .375 was still sitting in the soft case and TSA about had a fit. One guy wanted to "melt the bolt down" but the boss actually escorted me to my flight to gate check the soft case.

Of course my flight was moved to another terminal and the story becomes an even longer tale....how a .375 bolt made it's way to Africa 5 days later and avoided the melting pot....


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I once had a TSA agent tell me that he could get me out of trouble for having a pocket knife in my bag if I let him keep it. It was a nice knife. F that guy.
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20 years ago i flew into an airport under construction to go hunting. My OU had been checked. I picked up my bags and called my ride who said we should meet at a bar at "X" concourse.

So after wandering through the construction areas I finally found the bar. It was on the other side of the metal detector (pre TSA days). They had moved the detector 'out' or closer to the airport entry to accommodate the construction which my ride did not know.

I threw my bag, which had my OU case in it, on the conveyor belt. I just didn't think about it since I was at my arrival airport and wasn't boarding a flight. Anyway, as i walk through the detector I remember and tell the agent to stop the x ray that there is a gun in that bag. He looks at his screen and says yep, too late.

Long story short I spent about 5 hours at the airport jail but not in lock up, they were cool. Then got transported downtown and waited in the drunk tank for 2 hours to talk to a judge.

They let me go with an apology for the detainment. Got the gun back 6 months later. Had to borrow a gun for the hunt. Got many quail and pissed off buddy who had to wait on my ass for 7 hours.

Good ole days i'm sure...
EVA3
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Barry?
Newoldarmy
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You're going to get a letter from DC and a bill for $500.

Edit: happened to my nephew, but reading other posts it looks like some just get warnings.
RK
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You guys need to take 30 seconds and look through your bags before you pack/travel. Not that difficult
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You guys need to take 30 seconds and look through your bags before you pack/travel. Not that difficult

This. Any time I fly I do a full shakeout of any bag before I begin packing it. Have found loose ammo many times.
Presley OBannons Sword
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Think I'd let the ammo go.
Man, my philosophical side completely disagrees, but my practical side completely agrees. Without derailing the thread into gun control, this little anecdote here is a great example of how gun rights will eventually be completely eroded. Practically, letting the handful of rounds go and moving on with your day is the easiest option by far. But make no mistake, what happened to you was that the federal government seized your privately owned ammunition. Ten thousand cuts later, the easy, practical thing to do will be for us to just hand our guns over completely.
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Think I'd let the ammo go.
Man, my philosophical side completely disagrees, but my practical side completely agrees. Without derailing the thread into gun control, this little anecdote here is a great example of how gun rights will eventually be completely eroded. Practically, letting the handful of rounds go and moving on with your day is the easiest option by far. But make no mistake, what happened to you was that the federal government seized your privately owned ammunition. Ten thousand cuts later, the easy, practical thing to do will be for us to just hand our guns over completely.
Look, I get where you're coming from but this is just over the top.

The laws are clear and posted everywhere when going through a TSA checkpoint. The fact of the matter is that you've got no one else to blame if you have your personal property confiscated because you were too absent minded to remember you had a prohibited item in your carry-on luggage in this day and age.

If you follow the rules you get where you're going with your stuff. I flew Sunday with a pistol and 3 fully loaded mags of .40. You fill out a card, show the agent your stuff, and they check your bag. It's about as simple as can be.
Presley OBannons Sword
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Look, I get where you're coming from but this is just over the top.

The laws are clear and posted everywhere when going through a TSA checkpoint. The fact of the matter is that you've got no one else to blame if you have your personal property confiscated because you were too absent minded to remember you had a prohibited item in your carry-on luggage in this day and age.

If you follow the rules you get where you're going with your stuff. I flew Sunday with a pistol and 3 fully loaded mags of .40. You fill out a card, show the agent your stuff, and they check your bag. It's about as simple as can be.
I get where you're coming from too, but just look at what you said. It has become completely acceptable to us that in order to get from point A to point B in America with a firearm, you have to let the federal government almost give you a literal and metaphorical body cavity search. Laws are clear and posted... checkpoints... rules posted... cards filled out... prohibited items...agents, etc...then you say it's simple as can be, and that if you get your weapons or ammo seized, it's your own fault.

I'm not trying to be combative, just thinking out loud more than anything. I do get what you're saying, but I just think that more and more rules, and less and less freedom will just continue to be accepted as normal and acceptable until it's all over.
TX AG 88
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You guys need to take 30 seconds and look through your bags before you pack/travel. Not that difficult


I used to do this, but then I got a new backpack for travel, which never, ever has any guns or ammo placed in it.
Presley OBannons Sword
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I guess my main point isn't whether rules are posted clearly or not, it's just that there are SO MANY RULES. and if you mistakenly break one, its accepted that confiscation is ok. the more rules there are, the easier it is to break one accidentally.
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Look, I get where you're coming from but this is just over the top.

The laws are clear and posted everywhere when going through a TSA checkpoint. The fact of the matter is that you've got no one else to blame if you have your personal property confiscated because you were too absent minded to remember you had a prohibited item in your carry-on luggage in this day and age.

If you follow the rules you get where you're going with your stuff. I flew Sunday with a pistol and 3 fully loaded mags of .40. You fill out a card, show the agent your stuff, and they check your bag. It's about as simple as can be.
I get where you're coming from too, but just look at what you said. It has become completely acceptable to us that in order to get from point A to point B in America with a firearm, you have to let the federal government almost give you a literal and metaphorical body cavity search. Laws are clear and posted... checkpoints... rules posted... cards filled out... agents, etc...then you say it's simple as can be, and that if you get your weapons or ammo seized, it's your own fault.

I'm not trying to be combative, just thinking out loud more than anything. I do get what you're saying, but I just think that more and more rules, and less and less freedom will just continue to be accepted as normal and acceptable until it's all over.
We're discussing airport security here. Not allowing firearms in carry on is hardly 'unacceptable'. Surely you can agree that it's a reasonable restriction and not at all comparable to just being randomly stopped on the street while being told "papers please."?
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Surely you can agree that it's a reasonable restriction
this sentence just gets my spidey senses up on general principle.
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Anybody else just surprised TSA caught it considering all the crap that's made it past the screeners in the security testing?
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