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did you like bodie after the first episode? how about prez? carver?
Bodie, yes. Prez and Carver, no.
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did you like bodie after the first episode? how about prez? carver?
quote:In my opinion the most important thing for a pilot is to establish the setting. The characters will change a lot and develop throughout even a single series. I thought it was "refreshing".
Ultimately I have a hard time respecting people who live like that. Even though the show isn't celebrating their lifestayle, it will be hard for me to overcome. I am too predisposed to disliking this particulary personality type. They have accomplished nothing, they have produced nothing and yet still maintain a very high opinion of themselves.
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was stringer trying to better himself? avon? most of the cops?
quote:One of the quotes I read about the show was that their delusion is the narrative of the story. Obviously the point of the show is going to be watching them come to grips with that, as it's just now going to set in. She's just had the rug yanked out from under her. I just think it's interesting to say that they can't be likable because they are delusional. If you're anywhere near your early 20s, most of your friends are probably delusional. That doesn't mean there's no reason to root for them.
there's just no reason to like any of the main characters of Girls. they're all completely delusional
quote:This is a joke right? Please go watch it again. These guys lived it up off Vince and used him at almost every opportunity through most of the show- especially at the start. He wasn't talented and got where he was on a pretty face, and destroyed his career multiple times. E, Turtle, and Johnny spent a good deal of time moping around feeling sorry for themselves. The show was great escapist entertainment, but a tale of hard working guys who got by on only that it is not. Their parents may not have helped them, but they all made it in Vince's pretty face, not "hard work".
What Entourage were you watching?
Eric was a super hard working guy that started his own management company.
Turtle was always hustling starting different businesses and found success.
Vince and his brother were both actors but they both worked hard.
None of them came from money and none of them got any support from their parents financially. In the beginning they are living off Vince to an extent but they also are helping him in his career and life, none of them wants to be a career leach though.
None of them spent much time feeling sorry for themselves or waiting for someone else to bail them out. I just don't get your comparison.
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You guys are all over the place with the scaling of this show.
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While living off your parents for 2 years after college is bad, her parents were wrong to cut her off in that fashion.
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I really just think there are 2 things at work: 1) It's a female centered show (written by and starring mostly females, and girls "just aren't funny") and this is a website where your average audience is dudes living in the South and 2) Critics across the board praised it heavily, which sometimes makes people forget that they aren't always in tune with people who are paid to think and write about TV (emphasis on the "think about") and assume it must be good. They are then letdown by the "hype", even though they failed to realize WHY it was that critics praised it and those reasons meant it wasn't going to be up their alley in the first place. But they also need to come up with reasons why, so they aren't called stupid.
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Agreed. That seemed a little too harsh/illogical. Give her a deadline of a month or so to secure a job, then cut her off. Especially if she can only truly afford to eat/live in NY for the next seven days or whatever.
Yes but her response of "I only need you to give me money for 2 years so I can write my book" and then immediately going hostile to them as soon as they questioned this "plan" was unimpressive.
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I didn't think the parents were written badly at all. Maybe they were a little over the top, but it's a comedy for crying out loud. I could totally see a couple professors from some small liberal arts college treating their kid like a case study of sorts.