Texas firefighter shoots 2 dogs on his property

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Sorry if Germans...


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Tim Conatser, a volunteer firefighter with Union Valley Fire Department in Royse City, Texas, posted an image on Facebook (seen below WARNING: Graphic content) of two dead dogs.

Facebook user Kimberly Jones uploaded a screenshot of the post, which has been shared more than 62,000 times in less than a day.

The fire department shared this message earlier Wednesday:

As previously stated, we do not condone the recent actions of one of our firefighters. We are following our policy in removing him from our department. This is now a civil/criminal matter that we have no jurisdiction over. Please forward all concerns to local law enforcement and/or the SPCA.

So far the owner of the dogs has not come forward publicly.

http://knue.com/texas-firefighter-tim-conatser-causes-viral-controversy-with-dead-dogs-photo/


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RagonkForce
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Headline: volunteer fired
Kenneth_2003
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1) what does it matter that he's a fire fighter?
2) I wonder if his community or county has a leash or property ordinance
3) he stated he had warned the neighbors to keep their dogs off his property
AggieJ29
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What exactly is the problem here? Seems ok to me.
Gigem Trevas
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GinaLinetti
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Royce City.

Almost caught hepatitis from a convenience store bathroom over the Christmas holidays. This story isn't surprising.
cisgenderedAggie
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Castle Doctrine
RagonkForce
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Better thread. How does one almost catch hepatitis?
Poeag
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I have a friends wedding there in a week
nuRowdy
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I had a pregnancy scare there years ago. Be careful.
marble rye
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What exactly is the problem here? Seems ok to me.


You cannot shoot dogs. Period. It's against the law.
You call animal control.

It isn't important that he is a firefighter except volunteer or not, firefighters are public servants and expected to act accordingly. This guy didnt.

My brother is close friends w the sheriff in Hunt Co. and everyone has been emailing and calling about this guy getting arrested. haha.
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Headline: volunteer fired
GinaLinetti
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I have a friends wedding there in a week




T&Ps
Jugstore Cowboy
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I'm just a simple caveman, but it seems that one would be within rights to shoot a potentially dangerous dog on one's own property.

Now, if he was set up with a rifle waiting for the dogs to step onto the wrong side of the driveway, that's a different story.
marble rye
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Headline: volunteer fired


Which is still a punishment for this guy. Volunteer firefighters live for that gig. Sitting around drinking beer w your bros...and ALSO put out fires? This isn't Dallas or any big city. These guys have nothing better going on.

FCBlitz
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You can shoot them if they are a threat.
nuRowdy
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Chances that they caught him at the gym on leg day: 0.00%
marble rye
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I'm just a simple caveman, but it seems that one would be within rights to shoot a potentially dangerous dog on one's own property.


But they weren't dangerous. He shot them because they kept coming around his show rabbits. Rabbits that are properly caged aren't going to be "attacked" by dogs.
Call animal control and the police. Have the dogs impounded and their owners fined. Maybe fence your property if you're so concerned.

Dogs get out ball the time. Doesn't give anyone the right to shoot them. He knew they were pets bc he said, "someone didn't listen to my warning."
marble rye
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Now, if he was set up with a rifle waiting for the dogs to step onto the wrong side of the driveway, that's a different story.


That's exactly what he did.
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Good the dogs probably deserved it
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Maybe fence your property if you're so concerned.

Or the owner of the dogs could fence his property or otherwise properly restrain the dogs. It's the owner's responsibility to keep the dogs secured.
marble rye
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Here is the original post on FB:

marble rye
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Or the owner of the dogs could fence his property or otherwise properly restrain the dogs. It's the owner's responsibility to keep the dogs secured.


I don't disagree. Still can't shoot dogs willy nilly.
ag92tx
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You mean to tell me a volunteer firefighter is also a dbag?! Noooo wayyyyy!!
HossAg
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I understand if they are attacking, but jeez dude, they are just in your yard.
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ag92tx
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Even worse posting it on Facebook like a hardarse. What a tool
Beerosch
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What exactly is the problem here? Seems ok to me.


You cannot shoot dogs. Period. It's against the law.
You call animal control.

It isn't important that he is a firefighter except volunteer or not, firefighters are public servants and expected to act accordingly. This guy didnt.

My brother is close friends w the sheriff in Hunt Co. and everyone has been emailing and calling about this guy getting arrested. haha.



Texas Penal Code 42.09 - Cruelty to Animals states:

(e) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the animal was discovered on the person's property in the act
of or immediately after injuring or killing the person's goats,
sheep, cattle, horses, swine, or poultry and that the person killed
or injured the animal at the time of this discovery.
(f) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(8)
that the actor tripped the horse for the purpose of identifying the
ownership of the horse or giving veterinary care to the horse.
(g) It is a defense to prosecution for an offense under this
section that the person had a reasonable fear of bodily injury to
the person or to another by a dangerous wild animal as defined by
Section 822.101, Health and Safety Code.

So as long as you say it was attacking you or your animals you're fine shooting it.
marble rye
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Statute says nothing about rabbits. And if they are acting aggressively, why weren't the cops called after the first time?

Regardless, the guy's life is ruined if he chooses to stay anywhere in East TX. His name was attached to that screen shot.
nuRowdy
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When are you returning to east Texas?
marble rye
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First week of May, likely. I have a 10 lb nephew being born In April.
Beerosch
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I agree. Incredibly stupid on his part to post on Facebook. I do understand how someone can be pushed to that point though. I've been on our land before when the neighbor's dog growled at me when it was running around on our property. The sob was lucky I didn't have my gun handy. It's incredibly inconsiderate to let your dogs run free, and mess with your neighbor's property.
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Have animal control get the dogs first
marble rye
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Irresponsible pet owners are aholes, but imagine if these dogs' families have small kids or they had just become escape artists and wondered over to this guy's lot bc he has rabbit hutches.

I certainly understand his frustration but the fact that he posted this tells me he took delight in killing them and rubbing it in the owners' faces.
Beerosch
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Yea...I'm sure that will really solve the problem.
 
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